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jangofett287 · 06-21-2012, 01:10 PM

A quick point for anyone who uses this. It would appear that the data set downloads listed in World Studio are now invalid. I've looked around and found that worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov is down and unlikely to return (this server accounts for 4 of the 6 data sets), and terraserver-usa.com is returning a forbidden error, and besides only returned US data anyway (and this one accounts for the other 2).

**Artlav** · 06-21-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jangofett287

A quick point for anyone who uses this. It would appear that the data set downloads listed in World Studio are now invalid.

Well, it's been over 4 years.
Google Earth appeared and matured, WorldWind i used back then has dwindled and vanished.
Orbiter 2010 was released, times changed, and so on.

BruceJohnJennerLawso · 06-27-2012, 05:01 PM

My apologies if this has already been answered, but how can I avoid having orulex blow the ummu's and everything else at my lunar base into orbit? Ive tried to get orulex working twice now, with no success

jedidia · 06-27-2012, 05:05 PM

Strange, it never did that to me... ?

BruceJohnJennerLawso · 06-27-2012, 05:13 PM

Maybe Ill have to try a third time, but besides some odd graphics rendering around KSC, when I switched to a ship on my moon base, orulex blew everything into orbit while loading.

**Artlav** · 06-27-2012, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceJohnJennerLawso

when I switched to a ship on my moon base, orulex blew everything into orbit while loading.

Sounds like you have some sort of collision detection module enabled. None that i am aware of are not experimental things capable of weirding out, so you'd better check that.

There is nothing in Orulex itself that can affect physics in any way.

BruceJohnJennerLawso · 06-28-2012, 04:28 PM

Do we not need a collision detection module to land on orulex terrain? or is there some collision libraries built into orulex itself?

jedidia · 06-28-2012, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Do we not need a collision detection module to land on orulex terrain?

Yes, but they're all rather awkward in their own way... I think Dumbo2007 is on to something really solid currently, at least the Alpha demo has never ctd'd on me and I never dove through the terrain. But it will proably still be a while until its actually usable.

**Artlav** · 06-28-2012, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceJohnJennerLawso

Do we not need a collision detection module to land on orulex terrain? or is there some collision libraries built into orulex itself?

Well, lack of a practical collision detection is what killed Orulex in the first place.
None are included in it, but it have an API to allow external ones to be connected. I wasn't been able to make one that would be practical, and neither have someone else, AFAIK.

BruceJohnJennerLawso · 06-29-2012, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedidia

Yes, but they're all rather awkward in their own way... I think Dumbo2007 is on to something really solid currently, at least the Alpha demo has never ctd'd on me and I never dove through the terrain. But it will proably still be a while until its actually usable.

Any Idea where I can find this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artlav

Well, lack of a practical collision detection is what killed Orulex in the first place.
None are included in it, but it have an API to allow external ones to be connected. I wasn't been able to make one that would be practical, and neither have someone else, AFAIK.

But you did include a link with the orulex release on OHM right? Visoad 2.0 or something?

**Loru** · 06-29-2012, 09:43 PM

AFAIK Visoad 2.0 (or meshland) was experiment alpha stage and I'm not sure it works at all.

Columbia42 · 06-29-2012, 10:04 PM

Meshland works to an extent but it's pretty buggy and as far as I remember, doesn't work well with Ummu.

jedidia · 06-29-2012, 10:15 PM

Orulex_Collisions_UCGO

Is pretty nice actually, but seems to have a ctd on Vista and 7.

BruceJohnJennerLawso · 06-29-2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedidia

Orulex_Collisions_UCGO

Is pretty nice actually, but seems to have a ctd on Vista and 7.

Thankyou. I wasnt exactly sure what that was

CaptBlanc · 07-04-2012, 04:26 AM

I gotta say, that I consider this addon to be just as vital as OrbitSound and UMMU. I have spent hours and days tweaking and customizing terrain files for various planets in various system addons. Got so I can't even look at a standard flat landscape in orbiter anymore! LOL!

I seem to have a handle on the "CTD-when-loading-new-planet" issue by setting Orulex to the following:

//Systems
Enabled=1
Collisions=0
Debug=0
Multithread=1
MultithreadEx=1
Props=1

//Timing
PriT=4536
SecT=3130
TriT=35717
QuaT=7946

//Limits
MaxPolyCount=103508 ////20000-100000 limits
AltLimit=30000
BlendLimit=10000
LevLimit=14
GlobalHMapLimit=2

//Paths
Configs=Config\terrain
Textures=Textures
Heightmaps=Heightmaps

...Makes less of a strain on my Nvidia GeForce 9400GT GPU...and I no longer have to save before landing or launching. Plus the terrain loads in under 5 seconds. Some CDT's still occur, but very rarely, now.

I don't use the collision module...that turned out to be buggy-beyond-all-reason. But I can live with that. (Just find a flat space to land that's at sea-level!) I kinda miss my mountain-climbing from the really old version, however.)

All it needs is a random tree-and-rock generator, and perhaps someway to declare certain colors in the surface texture as "flat" or "Ocean" to facitlitate more fun!

06-29-2012, 10:15 PM	#43
jedidia shoemaker without legs	Orulex_Collisions_UCGO Orulex_Collisions_UCGO Is pretty nice actually, but seems to have a ctd on Vista and 7.

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06-21-2012, 01:10 PM	#31
jangofett287 Heat shield 'tester'	A quick point for anyone who uses this. It would appear that the data set downloads listed in World Studio are now invalid. I've looked around and found that worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov is down and unlikely to return (this server accounts for 4 of the 6 data sets), and terraserver-usa.com is returning a forbidden error, and besides only returned US data anyway (and this one accounts for the other 2).

06-21-2012, 01:26 PM	#32
Artlav Aperiodic traveller	Quote: Originally Posted by jangofett287 A quick point for anyone who uses this. It would appear that the data set downloads listed in World Studio are now invalid. Well, it's been over 4 years. Google Earth appeared and matured, WorldWind i used back then has dwindled and vanished. Orbiter 2010 was released, times changed, and so on.

06-27-2012, 05:01 PM	#33
BruceJohnJennerLawso Iron Hill Discovery Commander	My apologies if this has already been answered, but how can I avoid having orulex blow the ummu's and everything else at my lunar base into orbit? Ive tried to get orulex working twice now, with no success

06-27-2012, 05:05 PM	#34
jedidia shoemaker without legs	Strange, it never did that to me... ?

06-27-2012, 05:13 PM	#35
BruceJohnJennerLawso Iron Hill Discovery Commander	Maybe Ill have to try a third time, but besides some odd graphics rendering around KSC, when I switched to a ship on my moon base, orulex blew everything into orbit while loading.

06-27-2012, 05:46 PM	#36
Artlav Aperiodic traveller	Quote: Originally Posted by BruceJohnJennerLawso when I switched to a ship on my moon base, orulex blew everything into orbit while loading. Sounds like you have some sort of collision detection module enabled. None that i am aware of are not experimental things capable of weirding out, so you'd better check that. There is nothing in Orulex itself that can affect physics in any way.

06-28-2012, 04:28 PM	#37
BruceJohnJennerLawso Iron Hill Discovery Commander	Do we not need a collision detection module to land on orulex terrain? or is there some collision libraries built into orulex itself?

06-28-2012, 05:12 PM	#38
jedidia shoemaker without legs	Quote: Do we not need a collision detection module to land on orulex terrain? Yes, but they're all rather awkward in their own way... I think Dumbo2007 is on to something really solid currently, at least the Alpha demo has never ctd'd on me and I never dove through the terrain. But it will proably still be a while until its actually usable.

06-28-2012, 07:02 PM	#39
Artlav Aperiodic traveller	Quote: Originally Posted by BruceJohnJennerLawso Do we not need a collision detection module to land on orulex terrain? or is there some collision libraries built into orulex itself? Well, lack of a practical collision detection is what killed Orulex in the first place. None are included in it, but it have an API to allow external ones to be connected. I wasn't been able to make one that would be practical, and neither have someone else, AFAIK.

06-29-2012, 09:36 PM	#40
BruceJohnJennerLawso Iron Hill Discovery Commander	Quote: Originally Posted by jedidia Yes, but they're all rather awkward in their own way... I think Dumbo2007 is on to something really solid currently, at least the Alpha demo has never ctd'd on me and I never dove through the terrain. But it will proably still be a while until its actually usable. Any Idea where I can find this? Quote: Originally Posted by Artlav Well, lack of a practical collision detection is what killed Orulex in the first place. None are included in it, but it have an API to allow external ones to be connected. I wasn't been able to make one that would be practical, and neither have someone else, AFAIK. But you did include a link with the orulex release on OHM right? Visoad 2.0 or something?

06-29-2012, 09:43 PM	#41
Loru Moderator	AFAIK Visoad 2.0 (or meshland) was experiment alpha stage and I'm not sure it works at all.

06-29-2012, 10:04 PM	#42
Columbia42 Orbinaut	Meshland works to an extent but it's pretty buggy and as far as I remember, doesn't work well with Ummu.

06-29-2012, 10:37 PM	#44
BruceJohnJennerLawso Iron Hill Discovery Commander	Quote: Originally Posted by jedidia Orulex_Collisions_UCGO Is pretty nice actually, but seems to have a ctd on Vista and 7. Thankyou. I wasnt exactly sure what that was

07-04-2012, 04:26 AM	#45
CaptBlanc Orbinaut	I gotta say, that I consider this addon to be just as vital as OrbitSound and UMMU. I have spent hours and days tweaking and customizing terrain files for various planets in various system addons. Got so I can't even look at a standard flat landscape in orbiter anymore! LOL! I seem to have a handle on the "CTD-when-loading-new-planet" issue by setting Orulex to the following: //Systems Enabled=1 Collisions=0 Debug=0 Multithread=1 MultithreadEx=1 Props=1 //Timing PriT=4536 SecT=3130 TriT=35717 QuaT=7946 //Limits MaxPolyCount=103508 ////20000-100000 limits AltLimit=30000 BlendLimit=10000 LevLimit=14 GlobalHMapLimit=2 //Paths Configs=Config\terrain Textures=Textures Heightmaps=Heightmaps ...Makes less of a strain on my Nvidia GeForce 9400GT GPU...and I no longer have to save before landing or launching. Plus the terrain loads in under 5 seconds. Some CDT's still occur, but very rarely, now. I don't use the collision module...that turned out to be buggy-beyond-all-reason. But I can live with that. (Just find a flat space to land that's at sea-level!) I kinda miss my mountain-climbing from the really old version, however.) All it needs is a random tree-and-rock generator, and perhaps someway to declare certain colors in the surface texture as "flat" or "Ocean" to facitlitate more fun!