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**Urwumpe** · 03-06-2012, 01:39 AM

It would be more interesting, if the Maya would actually believe in a doomsday. But they don't. The Maya theology knows no doomsday predictions. Contrary to Christian theology.

Rtyh-12 · 03-06-2012, 05:53 AM

The 2012 'disaster' is definitely the most well-known doomsday prediction and quite a lot of people (well, relatively) believe in it. I can't wait until 21st of December this year, it's gonna be fun...

jedidia · 03-06-2012, 08:18 AM

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Well, as long as it's just reversed, what are the differences?

Inertia's the difference

Luke Skywalker · 03-06-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rtyh-12

I can't wait until 21st of December this year, it's gonna be fun...

Oh, it will be alot of fun indeed.....

**Urwumpe** · 03-06-2012, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedidia

Inertia's the difference

Depends on the kind of reversal. A true polar wanderer would happen without changes in inertia, only by the transfer of momentum from one major axis to the other... but even then, we speak of 1° every million years.

Otherwise, even the popular internet hoax of Earth standing still for 24 hours would be pretty interesting from a thermodynamic point of view. Every deceleration of Earth, that is faster than 10 years would mean Earth explodes, rather than slowing down, because of the huge amount of energy that need to be transfered (Slowdown in 24 hours = surface of Earth emits a flash of X-Rays before evaporating at 17000°C after a few seconds of deceleration).

And even slowing down in ten years would mean some hot feet and strong Earthquakes.

After all, what such hoax developers always ignore: Earth is liquid inside. And has no vortex baffles.

Eccentrus · 03-06-2012, 02:36 PM

they don't have any end-of-world scenario except for the end of the 52 year cycles

**Urwumpe** · 03-06-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eccentrus

they don't have any end-of-world scenario except for the end of the 52 year cycles

Not that right, 2012 is a special date in the Meso-american calendar.

Every past creation of the gods did only last 13 Baktun (about 13 * 20 * 20 = 5200 years, subtract that the Maya year was only 360 days long, add still unknown leap months), Then they destroyed it, because it did not develop life.

Now you could shoot quick and say: Why shouldn't this happen in this world? According to the Maya (and similar tribes, all there share very similar creation myths), this fate will not happen to the current world, because life had been created from Maize this time and worked like the gods intended.

I like theologies with fallible gods.

**IronRain** · 03-08-2012, 08:05 AM

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**Face** · 03-08-2012, 08:26 AM

It is actually sad to see that institutions like JPL have to counter those nonsense doomsday theories, while mankind faces REAL problems that get more and more evident every day.

As if over-population, foreseeable energy-shortage, environment pollution and wars are not bad enough, no... we need some hollywood Nibiru with planetary alignment causing a pole shift to go down in style, all on one day - for the impatient. Because it can't be that we are guilty of destroying our home all on our own stupid selves, or can it?

HAL9001 · 03-08-2012, 01:07 PM

well, after all the mayan alender doesn't include leap years, it would already be 2013 by now... but I'm not sure if that's right - I guess the people translated calculated the date from the mayan into your calender knew about leap years...

**Yoda** · 03-08-2012, 01:14 PM

Massive Solar flare hitting earth today !!!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH.......that proves it's the beginning of the end !!!!!!!

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I'm gonna start digging my fall-out shelter !!

Luke Skywalker · 03-08-2012, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda

Massive Solar flare hitting earth today !!!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH.......that proves it's the beginning of the end !!!!!!!

2012 Doomsday Believers Reaction:

My Reaction:

**Urwumpe** · 03-08-2012, 04:30 PM

Just X5.4 solar flare. In 2003, we had a X45 flare, and nobody talks about it.

Codz · 03-08-2012, 04:46 PM

This is only the second largest and it is probably only going to have a very minimal effect on us. I really don't see why it's getting so much attention.

**Urwumpe** · 03-08-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Codz

This is only the second largest and it is probably only going to have a very minimal effect on us. I really don't see why it's getting so much attention.

This one is not even a top 100 flare in recorded history. Especially not if you include ice core data. In the past 25 years, this is one of the 10 strongest flares.

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03-06-2012, 01:39 AM	#31
Urwumpe Donator	It would be more interesting, if the Maya would actually believe in a doomsday. But they don't. The Maya theology knows no doomsday predictions. Contrary to Christian theology.

03-06-2012, 05:53 AM	#32
Rtyh-12 Orbinaut	The 2012 'disaster' is definitely the most well-known doomsday prediction and quite a lot of people (well, relatively) believe in it. I can't wait until 21st of December this year, it's gonna be fun...

03-06-2012, 08:18 AM	#33
jedidia shoemaker without legs	Quote: Well, as long as it's just reversed, what are the differences? Inertia's the difference

03-06-2012, 08:31 AM	#34
Luke Skywalker Rebel Alliance Hero	Quote: Originally Posted by Rtyh-12 I can't wait until 21st of December this year, it's gonna be fun... Oh, it will be alot of fun indeed.....

03-06-2012, 08:43 AM	#35
Urwumpe Donator	Quote: Originally Posted by jedidia Inertia's the difference Depends on the kind of reversal. A true polar wanderer would happen without changes in inertia, only by the transfer of momentum from one major axis to the other... but even then, we speak of 1° every million years. Otherwise, even the popular internet hoax of Earth standing still for 24 hours would be pretty interesting from a thermodynamic point of view. Every deceleration of Earth, that is faster than 10 years would mean Earth explodes, rather than slowing down, because of the huge amount of energy that need to be transfered (Slowdown in 24 hours = surface of Earth emits a flash of X-Rays before evaporating at 17000°C after a few seconds of deceleration). And even slowing down in ten years would mean some hot feet and strong Earthquakes. After all, what such hoax developers always ignore: Earth is liquid inside. And has no vortex baffles.

03-06-2012, 02:36 PM	#36
Eccentrus Geekernaut	they don't have any end-of-world scenario except for the end of the 52 year cycles

03-06-2012, 02:45 PM	#37
Urwumpe Donator	Quote: Originally Posted by Eccentrus they don't have any end-of-world scenario except for the end of the 52 year cycles Not that right, 2012 is a special date in the Meso-american calendar. Every past creation of the gods did only last 13 Baktun (about 13 * 20 * 20 = 5200 years, subtract that the Maya year was only 360 days long, add still unknown leap months), Then they destroyed it, because it did not develop life. Now you could shoot quick and say: Why shouldn't this happen in this world? According to the Maya (and similar tribes, all there share very similar creation myths), this fate will not happen to the current world, because life had been created from Maize this time and worked like the gods intended. I like theologies with fallible gods.

03-08-2012, 08:26 AM	#39
Face Moderator	It is actually sad to see that institutions like JPL have to counter those nonsense doomsday theories, while mankind faces REAL problems that get more and more evident every day. As if over-population, foreseeable energy-shortage, environment pollution and wars are not bad enough, no... we need some hollywood Nibiru with planetary alignment causing a pole shift to go down in style, all on one day - for the impatient. Because it can't be that we are guilty of destroying our home all on our own stupid selves, or can it?

03-08-2012, 01:07 PM	#40
HAL9001 super-ninja-orbinaut	well, after all the mayan alender doesn't include leap years, it would already be 2013 by now... but I'm not sure if that's right - I guess the people translated calculated the date from the mayan into your calender knew about leap years...

03-08-2012, 01:14 PM	#41
Yoda Donator	Massive Solar flare hitting earth today !!!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH.......that proves it's the beginning of the end !!!!!!! . I'm gonna start digging my fall-out shelter !!

03-08-2012, 01:23 PM	#42
Luke Skywalker Rebel Alliance Hero	Quote: Originally Posted by Yoda Massive Solar flare hitting earth today !!!..... AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH.......that proves it's the beginning of the end !!!!!!! 2012 Doomsday Believers Reaction: My Reaction:

03-08-2012, 04:30 PM	#43
Urwumpe Donator	Just X5.4 solar flare. In 2003, we had a X45 flare, and nobody talks about it.

03-08-2012, 04:46 PM	#44
Codz Orion/SLS supporter.	This is only the second largest and it is probably only going to have a very minimal effect on us. I really don't see why it's getting so much attention.

03-08-2012, 04:53 PM	#45
Urwumpe Donator	Quote: Originally Posted by Codz This is only the second largest and it is probably only going to have a very minimal effect on us. I really don't see why it's getting so much attention. This one is not even a top 100 flare in recorded history. Especially not if you include ice core data. In the past 25 years, this is one of the 10 strongest flares.