Find NAV freqs? - Orbiter-Forum

**dougkeenan** · 11-08-2008, 11:56 PM

Does any MFD do a scan for local (in-range) frequencies and thereby populate the NAV settings?

**Epsilon** · 11-09-2008, 12:07 AM

That would be horrible on Earth. D:
There's so many freaking beacons scattered around. Try flying with Planetarium Mode on, and activate "VOR Transmitters".
Here's a picture of the area around Cape Canaveral. :D
...hmm. Looks like I'm a bit north on that picture. The point stands.

**dougkeenan** · 11-09-2008, 12:17 AM

Planetarium Mode is nice but I don't know how it can set NAV switches. I was supposing the MFD could adjust for range or direction to handle clusters like your photo. I forget lots of freqs (lousy piloting not to pre-set I know), and find hunting them down and dialing them at the last minute requires attention needed elsewhere not to crash!

**Epsilon** · 11-09-2008, 12:22 AM

*chortles* It can't, not that I know of. I'm just saying that it'd be confusing for the program to try and parse that many nav frequencies within range, and actually give you something useful. If it -could- pick out the useful ones, based on settings you put in there... well. It'd be just as easy to go look it up at that point.

A tip for you though (This is what I do) is to get a couple of index cards and scribble down the stats on the bases you commonly shoot for. I've got cards for KSC, Brighton Beach, and Olympus. :D

That way, when you're descending towards Brighton Beach and realize, "Aww, hell. I don't have my transmitters set..." you save at least one step in the process. Bump the time to .1x, switch MFDs, set the nav, switch back, and roll. Takes about 5 seconds with practice. :thumbsup:

**dougkeenan** · 11-09-2008, 02:03 AM

Frequency Index Card Keeper Upper - FICKU MFD.

Seriously that sounds like a good idea if you can keep track of the cards. Does it help in memorizing them? I use CTRL-I to quick hunt most bases but the freq still must be dialed in. Just used it to land at Clavius - 116.1 !

**Epsilon** · 11-09-2008, 02:28 AM

haha
I actually rather like that. The thing is, an index card next to the computer is quicker to look at than twiddling through menus, and it can be done while the game is paused - although, I think you can search for bases while paused too.

TSPenguin · 11-09-2008, 03:21 AM

While your recent proposals are very practical and the reasonable thing to do, having an MFD or other type of plugin with a big fat scan button, which then lists everything the ship recieves sorted by distance and even sets your nav frequency is COOL ->

Even doing the scan in a brute force manner should be really quick and might even be good for a nice effect while scanning. And beeing able to trigger something like that with a key press is much better for your relationship with non orbiteerers. You should see the look on my girlfriends face when she stumbles upon yet another page containing orbiter related information... And somehow those pages end up in the wierdest places for her to find...

Wraith · 11-09-2008, 04:34 AM

Actually, I do have an MFD you might be wanting.

When activated, the MFD constantly tries to tune a selected receiver to a first available transponder/VOR beacon or IDS/VTOL transmitter. When it loses the signal, the search resumes.

The MFD is per-vessel-aware, i.e. it properly maintains its state when you switch vessels.

I wrote it ages ago while fooling around with Orbiter API, but didn't upload due to its very limited usefulness (i.e. uselessness).

autotuner.zip

To install, unpack the autotuner.dll to Modules/Plugin.
Shouldn't cause any trouble, but no warranty, as usual. Also, no support of any kind.

**dougkeenan** · 11-09-2008, 05:01 AM

Right on! It's simple, like tuning a radio. Very nice!

It certainly finds everything, doesn't it?

It might be nice to sort the data as previously discussed but this is still an elegant tool. Thank you very much for sharing it.

**dougkeenan** · 11-13-2008, 12:57 AM

In Orbiter if you can't find it, build it! The attached photo shows what I was thinking, a superset of the standard COM/NAV MFD. It dynamically sorts transmitters in range and can latch the closest into the ship's receiver stack. Almost finished ... uploaded

here

11-08-2008, 11:56 PM	#1
dougkeenan Donator	Find NAV freqs? Does any MFD do a scan for local (in-range) frequencies and thereby populate the NAV settings?

11-09-2008, 12:07 AM	#2
Epsilon Interplanetary Road Pizza	That would be horrible on Earth. D: There's so many freaking beacons scattered around. Try flying with Planetarium Mode on, and activate "VOR Transmitters". Here's a picture of the area around Cape Canaveral. :D ...hmm. Looks like I'm a bit north on that picture. The point stands. Attached Thumbnails

11-13-2008, 12:57 AM	#10
dougkeenan Donator	In Orbiter if you can't find it, build it! The attached photo shows what I was thinking, a superset of the standard COM/NAV MFD. It dynamically sorts transmitters in range and can latch the closest into the ship's receiver stack. Almost finished ... uploaded here here Attached Thumbnails Last edited by dougkeenan; 11-24-2008 at 05:23 PM. Reason: MFD done

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11-09-2008, 12:17 AM	#3
dougkeenan Donator	Planetarium Mode is nice but I don't know how it can set NAV switches. I was supposing the MFD could adjust for range or direction to handle clusters like your photo. I forget lots of freqs (lousy piloting not to pre-set I know), and find hunting them down and dialing them at the last minute requires attention needed elsewhere not to crash!

11-09-2008, 12:22 AM	#4
Epsilon Interplanetary Road Pizza	chortles It can't, not that I know of. I'm just saying that it'd be confusing for the program to try and parse that many nav frequencies within range, and actually give you something useful. If it -could- pick out the useful ones, based on settings you put in there... well. It'd be just as easy to go look it up at that point. A tip for you though (This is what I do) is to get a couple of index cards and scribble down the stats on the bases you commonly shoot for. I've got cards for KSC, Brighton Beach, and Olympus. :D That way, when you're descending towards Brighton Beach and realize, "Aww, hell. I don't have my transmitters set..." you save at least one step in the process. Bump the time to .1x, switch MFDs, set the nav, switch back, and roll. Takes about 5 seconds with practice. :thumbsup:

11-09-2008, 02:03 AM	#5
dougkeenan Donator	Frequency Index Card Keeper Upper - FICKU MFD. Seriously that sounds like a good idea if you can keep track of the cards. Does it help in memorizing them? I use CTRL-I to quick hunt most bases but the freq still must be dialed in. Just used it to land at Clavius - 116.1 !

11-09-2008, 02:28 AM	#6
Epsilon Interplanetary Road Pizza	haha I actually rather like that. The thing is, an index card next to the computer is quicker to look at than twiddling through menus, and it can be done while the game is paused - although, I think you can search for bases while paused too.

11-09-2008, 03:21 AM	#7
TSPenguin The Seeker	While your recent proposals are very practical and the reasonable thing to do, having an MFD or other type of plugin with a big fat scan button, which then lists everything the ship recieves sorted by distance and even sets your nav frequency is COOL -> Even doing the scan in a brute force manner should be really quick and might even be good for a nice effect while scanning. And beeing able to trigger something like that with a key press is much better for your relationship with non orbiteerers. You should see the look on my girlfriends face when she stumbles upon yet another page containing orbiter related information... And somehow those pages end up in the wierdest places for her to find...

11-09-2008, 04:34 AM	#8
Wraith Orbinaut	Actually, I do have an MFD you might be wanting. When activated, the MFD constantly tries to tune a selected receiver to a first available transponder/VOR beacon or IDS/VTOL transmitter. When it loses the signal, the search resumes. The MFD is per-vessel-aware, i.e. it properly maintains its state when you switch vessels. I wrote it ages ago while fooling around with Orbiter API, but didn't upload due to its very limited usefulness (i.e. uselessness). autotuner.zip To install, unpack the autotuner.dll to Modules/Plugin. Shouldn't cause any trouble, but no warranty, as usual. Also, no support of any kind.

11-09-2008, 05:01 AM	#9
dougkeenan Donator	Right on! It's simple, like tuning a radio. Very nice! It certainly finds everything, doesn't it? It might be nice to sort the data as previously discussed but this is still an elegant tool. Thank you very much for sharing it.