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  1. dseagrav

    SSU Development Thread (2.0 to 3.0)

    Oh, I thought it expected to be run on its own anyway because you modified Earth.cfg
  2. dseagrav

    SSU Development Thread (2.0 to 3.0)

    If you haven't already, you should steal the joystick driver from NASSP so nerds like me that have two of them can have simultaneous translate/rotate capability.
  3. dseagrav

    Touchdown points?

    Is the order and position of points used with the new version of SetTouchdownPoints() identical to the old? That is, if I call the new SetTouchdownPoints with 3 points, and pass the same points I used previously, should that work? When I try, the vessel is violently thrown into space instead.
  4. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    No it won't. Unless I use the Affero GPL, installing on a server does not equal distribution.
  5. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    I like that idea; I'll see what I can pull off.
  6. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    To further put this whole mess to bed, how about this: I will write a web application, an Orbiter Add-On License Selector. It will work like a checklist; The user will be asked for information used to make a license determination, the criteria for several open and closed source licenses will be...
  7. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    Since my post didn't get deleted, I'll continue. Do you have any idea how much your FUD cost me? Do have the slightest idea what I went through? When I first read this thread I agreed with you and your interpretation. The GPL seemed a clear danger, we had violated it, and we needed to...
  8. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    Then why do you keep trying to insinuate that GPLed orbiter addons present some kind of existential risk to OHM or Orbiter or the community as a whole? You keep trying to add caveats to things, to keep the window open for fear and doubt. You keep trying to convince people that the GPL presents...
  9. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    ... meaning we must address 100% of your concerns or you won't stop. and then You interpret the mere risk of a lawsuit as "damages", so until you are absolved of risk you won't stop. Nothing I said is untrue.
  10. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    From your own link: They'd have to sue you in your court, under your laws. ---------- Post added 08-15-15 at 12:03 AM ---------- Previous post was 08-14-15 at 11:42 PM ---------- For the nth time: There is NO legal document, NONE, that is safe to enter into without a lot of educated...
  11. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    But this isn't good enough for you, you already said so! You said until we absolutely address 100% of your concerns our license is not acceptable, and you would keep arguing against it until you were absolved of risk. ---------- Post added at 11:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:13 PM...
  12. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    Furthermore, there is no license you are going to find that addresses 100% of all possible potential legal offenses worldwide. There is always going to be some risk of violation somewhere under someone's jurisdiction. This is irrelevant. The only jurisdictions that matter are those of the...
  13. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    This is not true. Unless you have an explicit and separate contributor license agreement assigning copyright ownership to the project leader, the copyright of all contributions remains with the contributor. The only way to have complete copyright ownership of a project is to be the sole...
  14. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    This is NOT how a license change works. To make a license change, you must contact EVERY contributor and obtain an explicit sign-off to make ANY alternations to licensing. The ONLY exception to this is if you had the contributors accept an agreement assigning copyright to you. If you cannot...
  15. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    You do understand that relicensing a work does not undo the previous license, right? If this "Add On Developer" makes a release under your Standard OHM Minimal License, someone takes his work and reuses it commercially or whatever, and he objects, he can relicense his future changes, but that...
  16. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    And we already went over this. If you GPL something, it is GPL'd. If you don't, it isn't. You just can't GPL only part of a software's source code. If I GPL my meshes they are GPLed, but they still aren't part of the source code. If I GPL my documentation it is GPLed, but it's still not part...
  17. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    We've already been over this. The GPL doesn't impose any additional burden on OHM. The liabilities in redistributing GPL addons are no different than the liabilities in redistributing addons under any other license. Either the uploader has permission to upload the addon or he does not, and by...
  18. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    Great, so you'd rather he remain ignorant of risk until someone comes along to sue him? ...except you aren't protecting them at all! Ignorance is not a defense. Also nice that apparently these guys should be protected "the way they want" but if I protect myself the way I want I am...
  19. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    Just to remind you, all of these scary-sounding potential violations matter not a bit unless the copyright holders show up with lawyers. OHM doesn't have to worry unless someone uploaded something they didn't have the rights to, in which case they are in trouble regardless of licensing. If I...
  20. dseagrav

    License Wars MEGA THREAD (now with GPL!)

    That is outstanding, I'm gonna have to recycle that. For some reason Russian humor works really well for me, even though I don't speak a word of it.
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