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Well the pc is a few years old, but yes, fresh clean install of O16. I'd wondered if DirecX9 was part of the D3D9 install after I posted last night, because I have not updated that separately. Will tackle that next, thanks for the idea. Will advise ---------- Post added at 10:34 AM...

Hi guys. Excited for the new for Orbiter 2016 AMSO addon, so I've tried to get back into Orbiter to play it. I did a fresh install of Orbiter 2016, and it runs fine in exe and ng forms. Next I installed the D3D9, opened ng, checked the D3D9 box in the modules tab, but didn't get the video tab...

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I tried the OP's fix, and got no improvement. I read though the linked thread, and to a non programmer, I've got to tell you, I read a lot of gibberish, but no fixes, maybe I missed them all. I've got a new Dell w/ an i5, 6GB ram, pretty fast video card, ect. I can smoke FSX at any framerate...