News Antonov An-148 with 71 people onboard missing after taking off from Moscow

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Reported by airlive.net:

UPDATE 13:04 UTC Emergency crew sources confirm no survivors following Saratov Airlines An-148 crash.
UPDATE 13:00 UTC Interfax quoting emergency services source says there “is no chance” of survivors, wreckage spread over a kilometre around the village of Argunovo.
UPDATE 12:55 UTC Rescuers have not reached the scene yet.
UPDATE 12:39 UTC According to a source, there were 65 people onboard of the missing plane and six crew members.
UPDATE 12:35 UTC The plane is likely Saratov Airlines flight #6W703 from Moscow-Domodedovo to Orsk.
UPDATE 12:31 UTC “The airplane reportedly crashed outside Argunovo village [in the Moscow region],” the source told Interfax news agency. “The crew and passengers had no chance.”

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UPDATE 14:06 UTC The remains of a helicopter (Mail of Russia) found near the crash site suggest it could be midair collision.
UPDATE 14:05 UTC Live view from the Saratov Airlines An-148 crash site.
UPDATE 13:51 UTC Criminal case opened as the Antonov An-148 wreckage is spread over 1 km, like a midair explosion.
UPDATE 13:40 UTC The Russian Federal Air Transport Agency’s (Rosaviatsia) spokesperson confirmed the communication with the crew was lost few minutes after the aircraft’s take-off. “The radio communication with the crew was lost several minutes after the take-off, the aircraft disappeared off the radar screen. According to preliminary information, the communication was lost in the Ramensky district of the Moscow Region,” the spokesperson said.

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Apparently, the pilpt reported a malfunction and requested to land. Flightradar had it descending at 3300 ft/min before the crash.
 

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Hopefully, this one won't have completely wiped out a single choir, delegation, school class, etc. That seems to be a characteristic of Russian air disasters that make them extra sad.
 

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UPDATE 14:06 UTC The remains of a helicopter (Mail of Russia) found near the crash site suggest it could be midair collision.
That's odd - there are no mail helicopters around here.
 

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That's odd - there are no mail helicopters around here.

Seems to be some obscure internet witness. Even the existence of helicopter wreckage had already been rejected.

Still, the plane exploded mid-air. Which is dire.
 

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to clarify-

The plane? or just the engines??
 

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Officials are now saying that the plane exploded upon impact. There's also a footage from a surveillance camera, but it doesn't show much more than a distant fireball on the ground. Still, that debris field is too large. I wonder if the heli theory is completely false. Perhaps some government or army aircaft screwed up and didn't use its transponder, and they want to sweep it under the rug because elections are coming. I know, a bit paranoid, but still...
 

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There's also a footage from a surveillance camera, but it doesn't show much more than a distant fireball on the ground.
The footage in question:

I've also seen reports that the FDR have been recovered.
 

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Strange - one perspective looks like it was in fire before crashing, the other shows a huge fireball out of nothing.
 

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I wonder if they were in white-out conditions and just couldn't see that they were descending?
 

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Pitot/Static tube icing/blockages will kill you, here is a short list of previous incidents.

Northwest Airlines Flight 6231 (1974)
Birgenair Flight 301 (1996)
Aeroperú Flight 603 (1996)
Austral Líneas Aéreas Flight 2553 (1997)
XL Airways Germany Flight 888T (2007) (Iced up Angle-of-attack sensors)
Air France Flight 447 (2009)
 

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Not switching on pitot heat is a pretty fast way to ice those tubes up. Disastrous mistake.

Well .. that and what looks like a CFIT as well. RIP all.
 
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