Apollo 12 Checklists

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Is there any way to get the checklist flies for Apollo 12? The stock scenarios use generic checklists, but I was looking for something a little more accurate.
If not, how easy is it to fly a lunar mission using generic checklists?
 

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With no MCC support or checklists, its definitely harder, but doable. Its definitely the sort of thing where you will need a reasonable familiarity with the mission timeline, as well as a copy of the flightplan. Mission audio transcripts are very useful too.

Our RTCC is a very powerful tool. There is an excellent pdf manual for it in the doc/ProjectApollo/programmer notes folder. Even still, you may find you need a bit of a walkthrough, so don't hesitate to hit us up on IRC or discord.

Save often, and don't get discouraged if you end up repeating some procedures if it's your first time.

Good luck.
 

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Is there any way to get the checklist flies for Apollo 12? The stock scenarios use generic checklists, but I was looking for something a little more accurate.
If not, how easy is it to fly a lunar mission using generic checklists?
Best way is to use the actual mission flight plan and procedure checklists. You can find a good chunk here https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap12fj/a12-documents.html

As n7275 stated, you will have to use the RTCC MFD to compute your burns and we can gladly help on IRC or discord :)
 

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The only problem is that we don't have any CMC software for 12. However, that shouldn't be a big problem. From what I could find, the biggest difference between Colossus 2A and 2C seems to be the newly added Verb 79, which is nothing but a more comfortable way of doing the barbecue roll and maintaining orbital rate with the DAP. Mike Collins had to change the respective EMEMs by hand, Dick Gordon had the handy Verb 79 which only required to input desired rate, deadband and axis and hit PRO. You'll have to do it the Collins way, I'm afraid.
 

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The only problem is that we don't have any CMC software for 12. However, that shouldn't be a big problem. From what I could find, the biggest difference between Colossus 2A and 2C seems to be the newly added Verb 79, which is nothing but a more comfortable way of doing the barbecue roll and maintaining orbital rate with the DAP. Mike Collins had to change the respective EMEMs by hand, Dick Gordon had the handy Verb 79 which only required to input desired rate, deadband and axis and hit PRO. You'll have to do it the Collins way, I'm afraid.
Exactly this, you can use the Apollo 11 procedures for this part found here: https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/a11-documents.html
 

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Thanks... I may give this a go after I try Apollo 10 to get more experience in the ways of lunar flight.
Is full checklist/MCC support planned for NASSP 8.0?
 

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Thanks... I may give this a go after I try Apollo 10 to get more experience in the ways of lunar flight.
Is full checklist/MCC support planned for NASSP 8.0?
As of right now NASSP 8 will support Apollo 7-11 Probably not later missions until after a 8.0 release but of course that can change!
 

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there is a set of books called " Apollo Mission Reports " by apogee books that have pretty good time lines for all Apollo missions. A must have for all those who follow Apollo, good books
 

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It's definitely possible! I'm currently flying Apollo 12 myself. I use the Apollo 12 flight plan, but the Apollo 11 checklists.
 
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