Question NASSP 7 checklists in NASSP 8

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NASSP 7 had the procedures and their timestamps all condensed into 1 excel file (e.g. Apollo 7 Flightplan vAgc.xls) but in 8 the documentation looks very different and I find it difficult to follow and I don't like using the checklist MFD, so my question is can I use the version 7 flightplans with the v8 version or is it outdated?
 

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The obsolete checklists should work for the CSM-only missions on NASSP 8, but they don't take advantage of the new mission planning tools like RTCC MFD or MCC. That being said, using IMFD shouldn't cause a problem.

The differences are mostly how maneuvers are executed. For example, the old checklists would have you perform all maneuvers in the preferred REFSMMAT (0 RPY), whereas now we don't touch the REFSMMAT unless the maneuver is far off-plane.

I would say the only major things to take note of is that TLI is now computed and executed by the LVDC (you just need to make sure that LV XLUNAR is in INJECT) and that you'll need to use RTCC MFD to get your SPS trim angles.
 
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The Excel based flightplans had procedural errors and depended on unrealistic tools like the IMFD. Nowadays NASSP features the MCC and RTCC MFD to calculate maneuvers and the Checklist MFD for the flightplan and other activities, these are the supported tools.For that reason the spreadsheets have been removed as they will no longer work properly with NASSP.

If you don't enjoy using the Checklist MFD you can use scans of Apollo documentation instead. NASSP has reached a stage where virtually all procedures can be used as they were used on actual hardware.

Good places to find the documents are:
The VirtualAGC website - http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/links.html
Apollo Flight Journal - https://history.nasa.gov/afj/
Apollo Lunar Surface Journal - https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/main.html
 
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Thank you guys for the responses, I wanted to make sure but now I'm curious about the latest implementations in NASSP, been a few years since I last used it so I think I'll give checklist MFD a shot after all. Did the real P52 automatically move the sextant on top of the star upon pressing PRO on the DSKY or is that something that was implemented in NASSP for convenience sake?
 

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If the optics mode switch is set to CMC then indeed the optics will move to where the AGC thinks it is. If you have the switch set to MANual then you can move the optics yourself and make a mark. All systems are modeled directly from drawings and handbooks and will function the same as the real hardware where Orbiter allows it. Two notable exceptions are the Split line of sight (press V in the sextant) used during P23 because Orbiter doesn't allow superimposing two different viewpoints and the star markers used to indicate the proper star positions (the stars you see are in a slightly different position than the 60s leading to a wrong alignment).
 
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