Question Non-SCA 747

Major_Tom · Jun 11, 2018

Hi! I'm trying to make Mojave a bit more alive, just wondering if there's a civilian 747 around somewhere or maybe someone knows how to easily remove mounts and vertical stabs from Kev's SCA if that's ok?

gattispilot · Jun 11, 2018

I Am not sure if Kev33 will work in 2016 or 2010. I had permission to use his stuff. But not sure if I have his code to recompile.

boogabooga · Jun 11, 2018

If it's for scenery, all you should need is the mesh.

JMW · Jun 17, 2018

Looks like he's into mesh only already, or do all those planes work ?!
fps ?

Major_Tom
If you go into Meshviewer
Select chasis mesh
Jump down thro Groups till get to mounts or stabs flashing
Note group number
Minus 1 (I think)
Go to mesh file in Notepad or simular. (MAKE A BACKUP!)
Go to group number and delete group
Change group total in header of file (-1 or however many you delete)
Save file
N hey-presto! No mounts √
Or, scenario crashes and you re-instate original backed up file.
Easy, init!
If you're adventurous, give it a try.

Graham2001 · Jul 1, 2018

If you are looking for ideas you might want to check out a thread I created back in 2013 which covered fictional airline markings.

Thread: Fictional Airliner Markings

https://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=30186

Wolf · Jul 1, 2018

gattispilot said:
I Am not sure if Kev33 will work in 2016 or 2010. I had permission to use his stuff. But not sure if I have his code to recompile.

I gave it a try time ago and unfortunately it does not work. The animations also do not work.
Are you going to make a 2016 version? That would be really nice!

gattispilot · Jul 3, 2018

Wolf said:
I gave it a try time ago and unfortunately it does not work. The animations also do not work.
Are you going to make a 2016 version? That would be really nice!

Gave what a try?

I just looked at don't have the source code for his 747. So someone would have to make a new one

---------- Post added 07-02-18 at 06:03 AM ---------- Previous post was 07-01-18 at 07:38 AM ----------

So first it is sc2. So easy to edit.

So what do you want removed?

---------- Post added at 07:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:03 AM ----------

Like this version?

Wolf · Jul 4, 2018

gattispilot said:
Gave what a try?

I just looked at don't have the source code for his 747. So someone would have to make a new one

---------- Post added 07-02-18 at 06:03 AM ---------- Previous post was 07-01-18 at 07:38 AM ----------

So first it is sc2. So easy to edit.

So what do you want removed?

---------- Post added at 07:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:03 AM ----------

Like this version?

So you re working at a O2016 version?

gattispilot · Jul 4, 2018

yes.

It uses his textures. I just edited the mesh and redid the ini for animations. The gear just goes into the mesh. No openings,...

Try this:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RAgmL8Nvcvzkp8SyKekzvg5KPxmS5ebV

Wolf · Jul 4, 2018

gattispilot said:
yes.

It uses his textures. I just edited the mesh and redid the ini for animations. The gear just goes into the mesh. No openings,...

Try this:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RAgmL8Nvcvzkp8SyKekzvg5KPxmS5ebV

I guess I need to install the original SCA-747 first, right? I get a CTD

gattispilot · Jul 4, 2018

maybe. But anything in the log?

Here is a new zip with the textures. It is spacecraft2 but it works in 2016.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DU2ImtFl4xZ1r5O5Fee8ffVmw4BNGxZo

Wolf · Jul 4, 2018

I still have CTD. The only change I made is using System Sol instead of SolSTS but that should not cause any issues AFIAIK

Here is the logfile

Code:

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 3.66627e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 1 joystick(s)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module D3D9Client.dll ........ [Build 170525, API 160828]
000000.000: Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 121120, API 100830]
000000.000: Module DX9ExtMFD.dll ......... [Build 150812, API 100830]
000000.000: Module FlightData.dll ........ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Rcontrol.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module RPOP_MFD.dll .......... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiRegisterMFDMode
000000.000: At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
000000.000: Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
000000.000: future versions of Orbiter.
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module GPCMFD.dll ............ [Build 131213, API 100830]
000000.000: Module CustomMFD.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
============================ ERROR: ===========================
Failed loading module Modules\Plugin\ORBTGT.dll (code 126)
[Orbiter::LoadModule | .\Orbiter.cpp | 600]
===============================================================
000000.000: Module GCInfoMFD.dll ......... [Build 170715, API 161124]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: D3D9: [DirectX 9 Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: 3D-Adapter = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti
000000.000: D3D9: MaxTextureWidth........: 16384
000000.000: D3D9: MaxTextureHeight.......: 16384
000000.000: D3D9: MaxTextureRepeat.......: 8192
000000.000: D3D9: VolTexAddressCaps......: 0x3F
000000.000: D3D9: NumSimultaneousRTs.....: 4
000000.000: D3D9: VertexDeclCaps.........: 0x30F
000000.000: D3D9: XNA Math Support.......: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: Vertex Texture.........: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: Shadow Mapping.........: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: D3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F...: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: D3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F...: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: D3DFMT_D32F_LOCKABLE...: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: D3DFMT_A2R10G10B10.....: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_DEC3N........: No
000000.000: D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_2....: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_4....: Yes
000000.000: D3D9: Runs under WINE........: No
000000.000: D3D9: Available Texture Memory = 1703 MB
000000.000: D3D9: [3DDevice Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: [Loading Constellations]
000000.000: D3D9: [D3D9Client Initialized]
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module Spacecraft2.dll ....... [Build ******, API 050206]
============================ ERROR: ===========================
Mesh file name not provided
[MeshManager::LoadMesh | .\Mesh.cpp | 1237]
===============================================================
D3D9: ERROR: D3D9Client::clbkStoreMeshPersistent() hMesh is NULL
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: VESSEL::SetBankMomentScale
000000.000: At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
000000.000: Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
000000.000: future versions of Orbiter.
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: D3D9: [Scene Initialized]
000000.000: Finished initialising panels
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: VESSEL::GetHorizonAirspeedVector
000000.000: At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
000000.000: Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
000000.000: future versions of Orbiter.
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
============================ ERROR: ===========================
Mesh not found: .\Meshes\.msh
[LoadMesh | .\Mesh.cpp | 1269]
===============================================================

it says there is a mesh missing..

gattispilot · Jul 4, 2018

Weird. can you try in regular graphics?

See if you have k-747new.msh in the mesh folder

Wolf · Jul 4, 2018

gattispilot said:
Weird. can you try in regular graphics?

See if you have k-747new.msh in the mesh folder

It works with DX7

gattispilot · Jul 4, 2018

But not in d3d9?

Wolf · Jul 4, 2018

gattispilot said:
But not in d3d9?

Nope, CTD when using D3D9

gattispilot · Jul 4, 2018

I wonder if it because of sc3? Don't you have to link it?

---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------

So for d3d9 copy the ini into C:\Orbiter2016\Modules\Server\Config\spacecraft

and it works for me

DaveS · Jul 4, 2018

gattispilot said:
I wonder if it because of sc3? Don't you have to link it?

---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------

So for d3d9 copy the ini into C:\Orbiter2016\Modules\Server\Config\spacecraft

and it works for me

Better yet: Just go Video>Advanced>Create symbolic links. This will create a symlink between <ORBITERROOT>/Config/Spacecraft and <ORBITERROOT>/Modules/Server/Config.

So then you can just install any SCx.dll vessels like normal and they'll work. This is true for both Orbiter 2010-P1 and Orbiter 2016.

Wolf · Jul 5, 2018

Would it be possible to release a SCA version with the possibility to mate/demate the shuttle?

gattispilot · Jul 5, 2018

Wolf said:
Would it be possible to release a SCA version with the possibility to mate/demate the shuttle?

Yes. But not sure what you are asking.

But I can have the 747 with the struts and attach/detach a shuttle. But it looked like it had a extra thing covering the rear of the shuttle.

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