News The Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is dead

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Samsung has announced it's ending production of the Galaxy Note 7 around the world, pulling the plug on the phone after a months-long controversy over its defective, dangerous batteries. "Taking our customer’s safety as our highest priority, we have decided to halt sales and production of the Galaxy Note 7," said Samsung in a statement. The announcement follows yesterday's news that the company is recalling all Note 7 devices, including the supposedly safe replacement phones.

I have Samsung's previous-gen phone, the S7 Edge -- glad I didn't upgrade to the Note 7! Ouch! :blink:

Apparently the issue goes beyond a batch of defective batteries, since some phones with the replacement batteries are also catching fire.

Full article is here. A related link is Samsung says it's 'working diligently' as fifth replacement Note 7 burns.
 

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Good that it is dead before somebody human was dead. That thing was a digital suicide bomber.

I stopped using Samsung after the Galaxy S3 ... too much Samsung software causing too many problems. I now live happily with a (Motorola) Nexus 6.
 

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I am just waiting for I phone 7 to be banned after someone chokes to death on an 'airbud'
 

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I am just waiting for I phone 7 to be banned after someone chokes to death on an 'airbud'

Have you ever seen a lithium ion battery burn?
 

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too much Samsung software causing too many problems.
Hm? I always just flush all the crap after buying a new phone. Never had any problems.

Have you ever seen a lithium ion battery burn?
As someone who had once forgot a minus sign in a quadrocopter avionics code, i can tell that it's not nice.

First thing you notice is a unique fresh watery smell, then notice the wisps of fog coming out from the where the battery should be in the wreckage, scramble to tear out all the expensive parts and run away when suddenly the smoke starts pouring out, and a couple seconds later a half-on blowtorch worth of flames. Don't last long, but everything over it is burnt to a crisp.
Oddly enough, the stuff directly below it, including other non-punctured cells, is not even warm.

If that was to happen in your pocket you won't get much warning before your pants blow up.

Good call on the recall.
 

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Hm? I always just flush all the crap after buying a new phone. Never had any problems.

Samsung even managed to ruin the drivers here. Also removing the software was only possible by rooting it, which was causing its own share of problems then.
 

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If that was to happen in your pocket you won't get much warning before your pants blow up.

Yeah, that's pretty much the point I was trying to make when it was compared to airbuds.
 

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What sort of problems?

Some safety issues during that time (involuntary SSH ports), some incompatibilities with software, some software didn't like rooted smart phones... I decided to wait for it until I have a replacement. Now it is rooted, I wouldn't have had a problem would it have been bricked.
 

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As someone who had once forgot a minus sign in a quadrocopter avionics code

Heh, only realised now that your quadcopter blew up because of a sign error in the code... I used to program CNC Machines a bit more than a decade back, and I have a few experiences with the consequences of inverted signs myself... :shifty:
 

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Never been a Samsung fan, but this is pretty bad.
I once had a Samsung D900i, one of the best phones they've ever had, until they began to produce smartphones.

For now I'm still on a iPhone 6 (great phone too), but I've ordered the Oneplus 3, and it should arrive in the beginning of November.
 

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I hope this also pushes manufacturers to consider using removable batteries again, or at least, ones that only require basic tools to replace.
 

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I hope this also pushes manufacturers to consider using removable batteries again, or at least, ones that only require basic tools to replace.

I doubt it, but even having exchangeable battery back shell would be a huge improvement.

The problem is the insane desire for flatness.
 
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Do we even know what the issue is? (Other than 'the batteries keep exploding'). What's different about the Note 7's battery compared to other phones - have they tried to push the capacity too much? Why were they exploding when not being charged? I haven't seen any detail in all the meeja reports about the why's and how's.

Cheers, WE (a concerned Samsung phone owner...)
 

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Do we even know what the issue is? (Other than 'the batteries keep exploding'). What's different about the Note 7's battery compared to other phones - have they tried to push the capacity too much? Why were they exploding when not being charged? I haven't seen any detail in all the meeja reports about the why's and how's.

Cheers, WE (a concerned Samsung phone owner...)

They seem to be a) Much more flat than before and b) are squeezed into a much tighter space than before, which means they can't expand and contract like batteries usually do.
 

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I think what a lot of people don't understand is these modern high powered smartphones are not easy to make. The public wants larger power hungry displays, more processing power, quick charging and longer battery life. At the same time, they want it stuffed into the tiniest of space as well.

Personally, I've owned iPhones exclusively since 2009 with the iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPhone 5, and iPhone 6. My iPhone 7+ jet black 256GB device is on order and on it's way, and I've been happy with the iPhone and haven't had issues with any of them.

This is a pretty big setback for Samsung because they've now had to completely throw in the towel with the Note 7 while at the same time, Apple and Google are both releasing new devices.
 

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I don't get why people want a phone so thin... What happens if/when you sit on it?
 
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