News Contact lost with 777-200ER of Malaysia Airlines

[Urwumpe]

I thought it had already been positively identified as the fairing from a H-IIA?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...link-after-metal-wreckage-found-on-thai-coast

Did not see that yet, but you are right the pattern of the openings is extremely fitting.

Here is a better version of the picture:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Payload_fairing_of_GPM's_H-IIA_rocket.jpg

 

[Soheil_Esy]

I thought it had already been positively identified as the fairing from a H-IIA?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...link-after-metal-wreckage-found-on-thai-coast

From a SSO mission flight then.

But do the Japanese no longer use their alphabet and only arabic and latin?:lol:

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I thought it had already been positively identified as the fairing from a H-IIA?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...link-after-metal-wreckage-found-on-thai-coast

Tanegashima flights for sun-synchronous sats fly SSW

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/690982207398215681

The debris in Thailand isn’t MH370, it looks a lot like a Japanese H-IIA rocket fairing.

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/690982207398215681

http://global.jaxa.jp/projects/rockets/h2a/images/photo2_zoom_e.gif
http://global.jaxa.jp/projects/rockets/h2a/

http://maps.maphill.com/atlas/8n30-...-map/physical-location-map-of-8n30-100e20.jpg
‘Plane wreckage’ found and Physical Location Map of Pak Phanang

How can a payload fairing reach Thailand and skip the Ryukus, Taiwan, the Philippines and Indonesian Archipelago? Unlike the South Indian Ocean with little interfering islands/ land masses.

 

[Urwumpe]

How can a payload fairing reach Thailand and skip the Ryukus, Taiwan, the Philippines and Indonesian Archipelago?

The big conveyor belt in the sea.

According to the adrift simulator, it really can reach Thailand easily, though California would have been the more likely target.

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More trouble: A sonar ROV and 4.5 km of cable went lost when the ROV collided with a subsea mud volcano in 2600 meters depth. The volcano rises 2200 meters above the seafloor.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...authorities-lose-towfish-20160125-gmdbkz.html

 

[tl8]

More trouble: A sonar ROV and 4.5 km of cable went lost when the ROV collided with a subsea mud volcano in 2600 meters depth. The volcano rises 2200 meters above the seafloor.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...authorities-lose-towfish-20160125-gmdbkz.html

Don't you just hate it when you hit the side of a volcano...

 

[Urwumpe]

Don't you just hate it when you hit the side of a volcano...

Don't know. Usually I change course when I see Hobbits on the sonar.

 

[garyw]

"So, we hit a volcano which is so many thousands of meters wide and high but we can still find the bits of a Boeing 777. Honest!"

I think my faith in these guys just stopped after that little incident.

 

[Artlav]

To be fair, that thing is like a microscope - it sees small stuff in a short range, while a mountain is too big to be noticeable.

 

[Urwumpe]

To be fair, that thing is like a microscope - it sees small stuff in a short range, while a mountain is too big to be noticeable.

Also the scanning of the region has already improved the maps of the region a lot, before the accident, there was little known.

 

[Notebook]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36394864

Experts following the disappearance of MH370 say it is likely that a new piece of debris found on a Mozambique beach came from the missing plane.

A reader contacted the BBC on Thursday to say he recently found the fragment on the Macaneta peninsula

 

[fred18]

So it looks like from today the research for the plane will be (most probably) definitively suspended...

This is to me the biggest mistery ever happened in modern aeronautics... and it seems that it will remain so for a long while... something close to forever...

It is still pretty hard to me to understand how a huge plane with 239 people onboard can just disappear from radars, keep flying for hours without anyone to notice anything...

 

[Urwumpe]

Well, private expeditions will likely still search for the plane. The search region can't be completely wrong, but its too large to really find something in reasonable time.

 

[Notebook]

Tragic event for all involved in this, the lack of knowing where the aircraft is must add to the distress.

I think this may help bring in mandatory tamper-proof position reporting for all large passenger aircraft, in the same way this altered views on cockpit voice-recordings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_European_Airways_Flight_548#Findings_and_recommendations

N.

 

[Urwumpe]

Tragic event for all involved in this, the lack of knowing where the aircraft is must add to the distress.

I think this may help bring in mandatory tamper-proof position reporting for all large passenger aircraft. Can't imagine it would be technically very difficult?

N.

Well, not difficult. But expensive. The airlines would be the ones to pay it.

 

[Andy44]

So it looks like from today the research for the plane will be (most probably) definitively suspended...

This is to me the biggest mistery ever happened in modern aeronautics... and it seems that it will remain so for a long while... something close to forever...

It is still pretty hard to me to understand how a huge plane with 239 people onboard can just disappear from radars, keep flying for hours without anyone to notice anything...

On the scale of an entire ocean, a 777 is not really much larger than a Lockheed Electra such as the one flown by Amelia Earhart, which has been searched for over the better part of the last century, also without success.

 

[fred18]

On the scale of an entire ocean, a 777 is not really much larger than a Lockheed Electra such as the one flown by Amelia Earhart, which has been searched for over the better part of the last century, also without success.

I agree, what surprises me it's not that they can't find it now, ocean is too big, what surprises me is that they did not know where it was while still flying... we live in the era of gps, satellite comms and we have terrorism so if we lose a plane we should track it immediately... but still looks like this big bird flew 6 hours free by itself

 

[kamaz]

MH370 Pilot Flew a Suicide Route on His Home Simulator Closely Matching Final Flight

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/mh370-pilot-flew-suicide-route-on-home-simulator.html

 

[boogabooga]

What is the point?

One could look at my hard drive's Orbiter session and conclude I was planning a suicide flight into the moon. Doesn't prove anything.

 

[kamaz]

What is the point?

One could look at my hard drive's Orbiter session and conclude I was planning a suicide flight into the moon. Doesn't prove anything.

Your moon crashes have a plausible explanation that you are learning to land on the Moon. OTOH this route can have no purpose except for a suicide:

 

[Artlav]

I flew similar routes in the MSFSX. You land on the water (pontoon Cessna), cheatcode more fuel, fly on, land, cheatcode, fly on, all the way to antarctica.

 

[Notebook]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36904981

The crashed remains from the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 could be as much as 500km further north than the current search area, say scientists in Italy.

Their assessment is based on the location of confirmed debris items and computer modelling that incorporates ocean and weather data.

They say this has allowed them to determine where the plane most likely hit the water and where future aircraft fragments might wash up.