Problem Delta Glider IV Spinning - RCS Problem?

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Dear Community

A problem just showed up and I don't know what causes the problem.

I just wanted to make a short flight to the moon with a Delta Glider IV. Via TransferMFD I calculated my burn and executed it.
On the cruise I pressed KillRot and I noticed that the RCS Thrusters are constantly firing. Not much but I drains my fuel.

When I deactivate KillRot the Delta Glider IV instantly rotates to the "bottom left" (if you know what I mean). The only solution I found is to close the RCS valve. As soon as I open the valve the ship starts spinning again.
This is a new problem for me and I don't get it...

Here is the code of the last Quicksave:

Code:
BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 336863
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 55201.2855590759
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship GL-01
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET GL-01
  MODE Cockpit
  FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Orbit
  REF AUTO
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Ecliptic
  ALT
  REF Moon
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Map
  REF Moon
  BTARGET Brighton Beach
  POS 0.00 0.00
  DISP 1711
END_MFD

BEGIN_PANEL
END_PANEL

BEGIN_SHIPS
GL-01:DeltaGliderIV
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -488823.27 -807115.34 1529812.69
  RVEL 1113.021 899.080 826.730
  AROT -132.53 45.07 64.74
  VROT -0.52 0.34 -0.82
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.183975 1:0.864418 2:0.983333
  IDS 0:45 100
  NAVFREQ 94 524
  XPDR 0
  ;-------------------------- Skin parameters must contain directory name of skin (without space) 
  MeshSkin SK-017
  ;-------------------------- Cargo payload must contain name of config file or "none".(see doc) 
  CargoPayload none
  NOSECONE 0 0.00
  GEAR 0 0.00
  AllDoorsState 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0 0.00
  But1Cockpit 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 5
  But2Cockpit 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
  TransEffect -1
  LifeBut1State 0 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 4
  LevelBatt 100.0002
  Emergency_power 10000.0000
  VoltageStartBus 0.0000
  VoltageGen1 96.2820
  VoltageGen2 96.2819
  VoltageGenBus 96.0000
  O2tankALevel 39.1399
  N2tankALevel 100.0000
  O2tankBLevel 100.0000
  N2tankBLevel 100.0000
  CabinO2Level 21.3967
  CabinCO2Level 600.0005
  CabinTempLevel 21.2000
  CabinPressure 14.7000
  CabinMoistLevel 36.0000
  CabinDustLevel -0.0001
  CabinO2Setting 21.4000
  CabinTempSetting 21.2000
  CabinPressSetting 14.7000
  AntennaTarget Brighton_Beach
  O2ConsumptionSetting 1
  FuelConsumptionSetting 1
  MainenginePower 1
  ;------------------Crew parameters  UMMUCREW Function-Name-Age-CardiacPulse-WeightKg (fonction of Pilot must be: Capt) 
  NoOneOnBoard 0
  NoPilotOnBoard 0
  UMMUCREW Capt-Chris_Schnorr-28-73-71
  UMMUCREW Spe-Matthias_Still-29-78-73
  UMMUCREW -Lara_Heinrichs-25-74-67
  UMMUCREW -Thomas_Adler-33-79-78
  UMMUCREW -Sven_Brookshaw-32-77-67
  FailGearFailure 0
  FailGearCollapse 0
  FailLeftMainEngine 0
  FailRightMainEngine 0
  FailHoverEngine 0
  FailRcs 0
  FailSurfaceControl 0
  FailComputer 0
  FailComputerBlueScreen 0
  FailAutopilot 0
  FailExtRadiator 0
  FailAirbrake 0
  FailNoseCone 0
  FailCanopy 0
  FailAntenna 0
  FailLeftTurbo 0
  FailRightTurbo 0
  FailCargoDoor 0
  SpacesuitTimer 0
  UCGO @@0,1,1,232,CargoBaseSolar,@@1,1,1,54,CargoFlagKitDE,@@2,1,0,0,@@3,1,1,38,CargoLandingBeacon,
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

Thanks for your help! :tiphat:

-Chris
 

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Dear Community

A problem just showed up and I don't know what causes the problem.

I just wanted to make a short flight to the moon with a Delta Glider IV. Via TransferMFD I calculated my burn and executed it.
On the cruise I pressed KillRot and I noticed that the RCS Thrusters are constantly firing. Not much but I drains my fuel.

When I deactivate KillRot the Delta Glider IV instantly rotates to the "bottom left" (if you know what I mean). The only solution I found is to close the RCS valve. As soon as I open the valve the ship starts spinning again.
This is a new problem for me and I don't get it...

Here is the code of the last Quicksave:

Code:
BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 336863
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 55201.2855590759
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship GL-01
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET GL-01
  MODE Cockpit
  FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Orbit
  REF AUTO
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Ecliptic
  ALT
  REF Moon
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Map
  REF Moon
  BTARGET Brighton Beach
  POS 0.00 0.00
  DISP 1711
END_MFD

BEGIN_PANEL
END_PANEL

BEGIN_SHIPS
GL-01:DeltaGliderIV
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -488823.27 -807115.34 1529812.69
  RVEL 1113.021 899.080 826.730
  AROT -132.53 45.07 64.74
  VROT -0.52 0.34 -0.82
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.183975 1:0.864418 2:0.983333
  IDS 0:45 100
  NAVFREQ 94 524
  XPDR 0
  ;-------------------------- Skin parameters must contain directory name of skin (without space) 
  MeshSkin SK-017
  ;-------------------------- Cargo payload must contain name of config file or "none".(see doc) 
  CargoPayload none
  NOSECONE 0 0.00
  GEAR 0 0.00
  AllDoorsState 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0 0.00
  But1Cockpit 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 5
  But2Cockpit 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
  TransEffect -1
  LifeBut1State 0 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 4
  LevelBatt 100.0002
  Emergency_power 10000.0000
  VoltageStartBus 0.0000
  VoltageGen1 96.2820
  VoltageGen2 96.2819
  VoltageGenBus 96.0000
  O2tankALevel 39.1399
  N2tankALevel 100.0000
  O2tankBLevel 100.0000
  N2tankBLevel 100.0000
  CabinO2Level 21.3967
  CabinCO2Level 600.0005
  CabinTempLevel 21.2000
  CabinPressure 14.7000
  CabinMoistLevel 36.0000
  CabinDustLevel -0.0001
  CabinO2Setting 21.4000
  CabinTempSetting 21.2000
  CabinPressSetting 14.7000
  AntennaTarget Brighton_Beach
  O2ConsumptionSetting 1
  FuelConsumptionSetting 1
  MainenginePower 1
  ;------------------Crew parameters  UMMUCREW Function-Name-Age-CardiacPulse-WeightKg (fonction of Pilot must be: Capt) 
  NoOneOnBoard 0
  NoPilotOnBoard 0
  UMMUCREW Capt-Chris_Schnorr-28-73-71
  UMMUCREW Spe-Matthias_Still-29-78-73
  UMMUCREW -Lara_Heinrichs-25-74-67
  UMMUCREW -Thomas_Adler-33-79-78
  UMMUCREW -Sven_Brookshaw-32-77-67
  FailGearFailure 0
  FailGearCollapse 0
  FailLeftMainEngine 0
  FailRightMainEngine 0
  FailHoverEngine 0
  FailRcs 0
  FailSurfaceControl 0
  FailComputer 0
  FailComputerBlueScreen 0
  FailAutopilot 0
  FailExtRadiator 0
  FailAirbrake 0
  FailNoseCone 0
  FailCanopy 0
  FailAntenna 0
  FailLeftTurbo 0
  FailRightTurbo 0
  FailCargoDoor 0
  SpacesuitTimer 0
  UCGO @@0,1,1,232,CargoBaseSolar,@@1,1,1,54,CargoFlagKitDE,@@2,1,0,0,@@3,1,1,38,CargoLandingBeacon,
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

Thanks for your help! :tiphat:

-Chris


That could happen if you are using an older version of AutoRudder. Disable it or update to latest version. If you don't have it installed,ignore me :)
 

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That could happen if you are using an older version of AutoRudder. Disable it or update to latest version. If you don't have it installed,ignore me :)

Hi malisle

Thanks for your Reply!
I don't have AutoRudder installed...
This this spinning vessel is driving me crazy. When i timewarp to 10,000 it spins like crazy when I come back to normal time speed. HEEEELP! :(

---------- Post added at 11:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 AM ----------

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Guys... my Joystick was the problem.
I'm feeling so stupid right now :(
 

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Can't you smell my T levels?
Thrusters firing is one thing. The next problem you may have (or not, depending on DGIV's code), is slight residual rotation, although the thrusters are off, which is Orbiter's bug. The [ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2899"]AbsoluteKillrot v.1.2[/ame] solves this problem.
 
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Nice realistic hardware problem. Closing the RCS valve was the best thing to do, then mission abort by free-return trajectory :) :salute:
 

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Have you recently DLed the new XR5 v1.9?

I ask because just last night I experienced the very same problem doing an Earth-Moon transfer in an XR5. My first use of the new XR.

After kilrot a slow counterclockwise rotation begins and looking at the rcs thrust levels on page 4 of the secondary HUD shows some strange numbers, which never zero out.



Alas, for an rcs valve in the XRs.
 
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Have you recently DLed the new XR5 v1.9?

I ask because just last night I experienced the very same problem doing an Earth-Moon transfer in an XR5. My first use of the new XR.

After kilrot a slow counterclockwise rotation begins and looking at the rcs thrust levels on page 4 of the secondary HUD shows some strange numbers, which never zero out.



Alas, for an rcs valve in the XRs.

Hi Aeadar,

No I didn't download the new XR5.
As stated above it was my fault... now I know why there is a deadzone when using a joystick :lol:

Another question BTW: Is there a chance to build a station with a DGIV? Are some kind of inflatable moduls?
 

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I have noticed with Dans arrow when you quick save with an auto pilot on the rcs keep on going when you re load it. The solution is to use scenario editor and remove all the fuel then add it again.
 

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Hi Aeadar,
Another question BTW: Is there a chance to build a station with a DGIV? Are some kind of inflatable moduls?

Yeah sir!, Just open Scenery Editor, click your DeltaGliderIV and click Edit. You will see 3 buttons. Click that one for Payload center... Im building a personal base in the moon :thumbup:

Its funny to use DeltaGliderIV for bring suplies to my Arrow orbiting Earth, when i will have all necesary for 2 bases (Moon and Mars) i will dock my Delta into Arrow and... Safe flight to the space! Lets colonize the universe ! hahahaha.

Also, if you got the Arrow Freighter, in the cockpit you have a direct cargo browser for add cargos in the Freighter. :thumbup:
 
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