BETA Release OGLAClient Beta 100511: Bug hunt continues

[computerex]

Are they still there?
With smoothing it would look like what you see in the 100501, unreadable at all.

Thanks, the fix did it. Unfortunately it also decreased frame rates by roughly 85% while in the panel mode.

 

[tl8]

Just installed over Orbiter 100509, Massive slow down and an error on the Launchpad

A large number of extra pixels on the yellow text

However GDI problem on the 2D Shuttle-A panel is fixed

 

[Artlav]

Thanks, the fix did it. Unfortunately it also decreased frame rates by roughly 85% while in the panel mode.

Hm? Are you sure?
There is almost negligible difference between 100508 and 100509.
Do you still use Orbiter 100503?
Is it the panel or some of the MFDs?

 

[computerex]

Hm? Are you sure?
There is almost negligible difference between 100508 and 100509.
Do you still use Orbiter 100503?
Is it the panel or some of the MFDs?

False alarm. Seems like an Orbiter bug, had two instances running in the background for some reason. I had two random crashes, and for some reason those processes weren't terminated.

 

[tl8]

Same as Computerex...

A slow down seems to happen when I move the 2D panels, about 90% and movement isn't smooth

This happens on both the left and right sides

 

[Artlav]

This happens on both the left and right sides

Wraparound... Fixing which is mutually exclusive with SSU C3 panel.

 

[tl8]

Wraparound... Fixing which is mutually exclusive with SSU C3 panel.

Maybe you might need a SSU mode?

 

[DaveS]

Wraparound... Fixing which is mutually exclusive with SSU C3 panel.

Artlav: No need for any special coding for SSU. The C3 panel bug has been fixed at the mesh level where the bug really was. So you can you remove any specific code you put into OGLA for SSU.

 

[Artlav]

Maybe you might need a SSU mode?

Artlav: No need for any special coding for SSU. The C3 panel bug has been fixed at the mesh level where the bug really was. So you can you remove any specific code you put into OGLA for SSU.

There is no special code - without wraparound the textures on SSU won't work whatever being done to the mesh, with wraparound the info screen line will appear.
With the D flag there is no implicit decompression, which had a bug in it that disabled wraparound, making that texture disappear.

The info's coordinates should be tuned instead, either in OGLA or in the core.

 

[tl8]

Could this "error" be linked to this one?

 

[Disconnect]

-A band in atmosphere looking from lower angles in ray traced air mode:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5862163/sav.png
(it wasn't there in the 1004XX versions)
- Poor fps with mapped shadows ( halved since the 1004XX release)

Artlav: i saw that you put some bug screenshots from me in the readme

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5862163/bug.png
you wrote, it's dgiv, but it isn't. It is plain simple delta glider, i don't remember what caused this issue, but i wrote it in the other topic.

And this:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5862163/triangles.png

you wrote: "Mapped shadows won't work on old ATIs"
i don't think my hd 3850 is "old" it's just 3 years old gpu, but the mapped shadows are working on it, this bug appeared when i did certain things in game, but it worked before, and worked later after a restart.

 

[Artlav]

OGLAClient 100510:
orbides.1gb.ru/orbf/oglaclient-100510_beta-100503.zip
Requires Orbiter beta 100503 (maybe 100509).
Raytraced haze tables: http://orbides.1gb.ru/orbf/ogla_earth_scatter.zip

Another batch of bugs swatted, this time it's the beautiful XR2 and good old DGIV that get the straight work fix.

Changes:
*Fixed mesh flags (XR2)
*Fixed another animations bug (new XR2)
*Fixed color key blending of GDI elements (DGIV and XR2 panels), Oh the FPS!

Could this "error" be linked to this one?

The lines? Wraparound due to some misalignment or misassumption, still investigating.
Lack of textures? No idea, no reproduction.

-A band in atmosphere looking from lower angles in ray traced air mode:

Kinda known, to be fixed later.

- Poor fps with mapped shadows ( halved since the 1004XX release)

Haven't been updated in a while.

you wrote, it's dgiv, but it isn't. It is plain simple delta glider, i don't remember what caused this issue, but i wrote it in the other topic.

Correct, if you look at what DGIV looks like in OGLA, you'll see it looks pretty much like that, so there goes the image.

you wrote: "Mapped shadows won't work on old ATIs"
i don't think my hd 3850 is "old" it's just 3 years old gpu, but the mapped shadows are working on it, this bug appeared when i did certain things in game, but it worked before, and worked later after a restart.

Hm, wording needs some fixing, but the image resembles the variety of things you'll see with shadows not being supported properly, for example on an old GPU.

 

[DaveS]

CTD with SSU during the pre-launch phase. I think the CTD is due to our current simulation of launch pad lighting by editing the materials of the MLP, Orbiter, ET and SRBs from the code.

Her's the relevant code:

//mesh illumination functions
static void IlluminateMesh(MESHHANDLE mesh)
{
    MATERIAL* material=NULL;

    DWORD materialCount = oapiMeshMaterialCount(mesh);
    for (DWORD mi = 0; mi < materialCount; mi++) {
        material = oapiMeshMaterial(mesh, mi);
        if (material->emissive.g <= 0.1) {
            material->emissive.r = 0.3f;
            material->emissive.g = 0.3f;
            material->emissive.b = 0.3f;
        }
    }
}

static void IlluminateMesh(MESHHANDLE mesh, vector<int> vExclude)
{
    MATERIAL* material=NULL;
    unsigned int ExCounter=0;

    int materialCount = oapiMeshMaterialCount(mesh);
    for (int mi = 0; mi < materialCount; mi++) {
        if(vExclude[ExCounter]!=mi) {
            material = oapiMeshMaterial(mesh, mi);
            if (material->emissive.g <= 0.1) {
                material->emissive.r = 0.3f;
                material->emissive.g = 0.3f;
                material->emissive.b = 0.3f;
            }
        }
        else if(ExCounter<(vExclude.size()-1)) ExCounter++;
    }
}

static void DisableIllumination(MESHHANDLE mesh, MESHHANDLE GlobalMesh)
{
    MATERIAL* MeshMaterial=NULL;
    MATERIAL* DefaultMaterial=NULL;

    DWORD materialCount = oapiMeshMaterialCount(mesh);
    for (DWORD mi = 0; mi < materialCount; mi++) {
        MeshMaterial = oapiMeshMaterial(mesh, mi);
        DefaultMaterial = oapiMeshMaterial(GlobalMesh, mi);
        
        MeshMaterial->emissive.r=DefaultMaterial->emissive.r;
        MeshMaterial->emissive.g=DefaultMaterial->emissive.g;
        MeshMaterial->emissive.b=DefaultMaterial->emissive.b;
    }
}

 

[Artlav]

OGLAClient 100511:
http://orbides.1gb.ru/orbf/oglaclient-100511_beta-100503.zip
Requires Orbiter beta 100503 (maybe 100509).
Raytraced haze tables: http://orbides.1gb.ru/orbf/ogla_earth_scatter.zip

Continuing XR2-related bug fixes.

Changes:
*Fixed specular issues (XR2)
*Fixed material assignment issues (XR2, SSU?)

CTD with SSU during the pre-launch phase. I think the CTD is due to our current simulation of launch pad lighting by editing the materials of the MLP, Orbiter, ET and SRBs from the code.

Could not reproduce. When exactly to look for it?

What about today's version, there were important changes in the MeshMaterial area.

 

[Coolhand]

this time it's the beautiful XR2

Thankyou for fixing up my baby, artlav.

I've been patiently waiting to try it in OGLA, but its been broken for so long. now it looks wonderful in that engine, but still not quite as i'd like...

I want to attempt to write (or preferably modify) a shader so i can add normal or bump mapping, specular and so on.. make it look really awesome.

Is it possible for me to do this at this point & do you have some example code - i remember you had some normal mapped craters and other effects on a DG at one point.

Thanks again.

 

[Artlav]

now it looks wonderful in that engine, but still not quite as i'd like...

Hopefully, all the remaining bugs should be fixed in today's version, thanks to dbeachy fixing the debugger-stopping issue.

I want to attempt to write (or preferably modify) a shader so i can add normal or bump mapping, specular and so on.. make it look really awesome.

Is it possible for me to do this at this point & do you have some example code - i remember you had some normal mapped craters and other effects on a DG at one point.

OGLA supports emission and normal maps for quite a while (with advanced graphics ON):

There should be an OGLA SDK provided with the release, and an example DG code there. Look into clbkVisualCreated for setting lights, normal mapped and emission textures.
I'm also planning to add reflection maps at some point (dual parabolic, most likely).

Writing custom shaders is not quite a planned feature, as it have as much potential for chaos as it gives freedom.

---------- Post added at 08:22 ---------- Previous post was at 08:17 ----------

Here is an up-to-date and properly commented version of OglaSDK:
http://orbides.1gb.ru/orbf/oglasdk-100511.zip
The one in the release turned out to be somewhat dated and cryptic.

 

[Coolhand]

thanks for the info artlav. hmm... in that example it looks like you have a specular effect going on there - as the highlight traces over the textures the light reflection - the specular highlights - intensity seems to be controlled by a map.

at a minimum i think you should be able to control spec, gloss & bump.

Reflection mapping will be cool, but specular works most of the time and has a lot less strain on the system... a spec map can control either or both effects. both reflection systems (specular being just a fake reflection of a lightsource) should benefit from a gloss map - which for specular will control the width of the highlight.

 

[Artlav]

hmm... in that example it looks like you have a specular effect going on there - as the highlight traces over the textures the light reflection - the specular highlights - intensity seems to be controlled by a map.

at a minimum i think you should be able to control spec, gloss & bump.

Ok, there are three textures per mesh - default diffuse, emission which is rgb+intensity in a, and a normal/specular, which is rgb for normal vector offset and a specular power in a. The color of specular is controlled by material.

So, that's bump and something between spec and gloss?

 

[Coolhand]

ok, that makes sense based on your example.. so spec power is stashed away in the alpha channel of a normal map. - unless that alpha somehow controls gloss, and its better if it doesnt really.

however, even without gloss mapping, being able to see it with normal and specular mapping will be a great improvement over the old engine.

btw, as a suggestion, another useful shading effect is using a fresnel or a falloff to help control a reflection map... for example, a metal material appears to be less reflective as it curves away, and a plastic material or something like paint is the exact opposite, more reflective looking at a glancing angle. you might use a falloff effect to create a planetary atmosphere, make it look thicker at the edges and transparent in the middle of the planet, so i expect you've encountered it before.

 

[DaveS]

Could not reproduce. When exactly to look for it?

Try this scenario, CTDs for me right when the night illumination kicks in. No joy with the latest OGLA beta(100511).

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