Request help with Skylab v4.8

porterguy · Mar 10, 2013

Hello everyone,

I have recently downloaded the Skylab V4.8 addon for Orbiter from simviation and everytime I try to start it up orbiter freezes and I get the error message "Orbiter.exe has stopped working" There isn't anything in the orbiter log (not that I can understand what those say anyways).

Also, when I try and run the AMSO version of Apollo missions and fly the flights using the Saturn 1B I receive this message in the orbiter log

**** Orbiter.log
Build Aug 30 2010 [v.100830]
Timer precision: 4.10523e-007 sec
Found 0 joystick(s)
Devices enumerated: 4
Devices accepted: 3
==> RGB Emulation
==> Direct3D HAL
==> Direct3D HAL (Intel(R) HD Graphics Family)
Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ProjectApolloConfigurator.dll [Build 100907, API 100830]
Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build ******, API 060425]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiRegisterMFDMode
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module Rcontrol.dll .......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module Framerate.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module FlightData.dll ........ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module Meshdebug.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module TrackIR.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
TrackIR module not found.
Module CustomMFD.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module LuaMFD.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module transx.dll ............ [Build 100824, API 100823]
Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ScriptMFD.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ProjectApolloMFD.dll .. [Build 100907, API 100830]

**** Creating simulation session
DirectDraw interface OK
Direct3D interface OK
Graphics: Viewport: Window 1354 x 740 x 32
Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: No
Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
Graphics: Active lights supported: -1
Loading 15382 records from star database
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
Module Io.dll ................ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
Finished initialising world
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: VESSEL::SetBankMomentScale
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Scenario parse error for vessel S-IB: base 'LC-39' not found on body 'Earth'.
>>> [Vessel:

arseScenarioLine2 | .\Vesselstatus.cpp | 174]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> TERMINATING <<<

What does this mean?

thanks for any help you can give me

ADSWNJ · Mar 10, 2013

It says Orbiter can't find Launch Complex 39 on Earth. Have a look at the release notes for Skylab to see if you need to install a specific Cape Canaveral add-on.

porterguy · Mar 10, 2013

I checked the manual for AMSO and found nothing about launch pad 39b requiring to be installed. So I tried reinstalling the entire package and I still get the same message.

I have no idea what I need to download or how to change the launch pad in the scenario folder so I don't know how to make it work

Cras · Mar 10, 2013

AMSO certainly does have its own launchpad. But from my recollection, it is all included in the package. AMSO is a standalone add-on, just install into a clean Orbiter and you should be good to go.

What it looks like is your Saturn stack is saying it is located at a base called 'LC-39'.

Change it to Cape Canaveral instead and then adjust the location until it is sitting on LC-39A.

porterguy · Mar 12, 2013

Cras said:
AMSO certainly does have its own launchpad. But from my recollection, it is all included in the package. AMSO is a standalone add-on, just install into a clean Orbiter and you should be good to go.

What it looks like is your Saturn stack is saying it is located at a base called 'LC-39'.

Change it to Cape Canaveral instead and then adjust the location until it is sitting on LC-39A.

How do I do that exactly? I am not the best at programing:rofl:

garyw · Mar 12, 2013

post the scenario file (the .scn file which is in the scenarios directory) and someone here will advise on exactly what to fix.

porterguy · Mar 15, 2013

BEGIN_DESC
Apollo 7 on a Saturn 1B 1 Minute to Launch. Press [O] when mission clock reaches 0:00:00 for autopilot trip to orbit.
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System Sol
Date MJD 40140.626910
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
Ship S-IB
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
TARGET S-IB
MODE Extern
POS 2.42 95.71 53.95
TRACKMODE Ground Earth
GROUNDLOCATION -80.62238 28.62035 13.00
FOV 80.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
TYPE Orbit
REF AUTO
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
TYPE Map
REF Earth
BTARGET Cape Canaveral
OTARGET
ZOOM
TRACK ON
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
TYPE Orbit
PROJ Frame
FRAME Equator
ALT
REF Earth
END_MFD

BEGIN_SHIPS
CSM-111:AMSO\Apollo
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00
PRPLEVEL 0:0.300
NAVFREQ 0 1 2 3
XPDR 0
STATE 8
ABORTSTATUS 0
PWR 0.000
BEACON 0
INVULNERABLE 1
MISSIONTIME -57
END
ASTP-DockingModule:ASTP-DockingModule
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00
PRPLEVEL 0:0
END
S-IVB:Skylab1973/Velcro/S-IVB
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00
ATTACHED 2:0,S-IB
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 1
CENTERTHRUST 0
PADBIAS 1.000
CAMERA 0.000 4.000 15.000
TGT_HEADING 41.000
SLA 4 -0.25 0.25 0.00
LES 22.2
JETT_ON_MECO 0
DELAYSTART 3.0
SERIESBURN 0 CSM-111 0.0000 0.0000 -8.2000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD Ring Velcro/Parts/S4b_upr_transition Velcro/Parts/S4b_upr_transition 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
PAYLOAD SLA1 Velcro/Parts/SLA01 Velcro/Parts/SLA01 0.00 0.00 -52.00 396.9 0.00 0.00
PAYLOAD SLA2 Velcro/Parts/SLA02 Velcro/Parts/SLA02 0.00 0.00 -52.00 396.9 0.00 0.00
PAYLOAD SLA3 Velcro/Parts/SLA03 Velcro/Parts/SLA03 0.00 0.00 -52.00 396.9 0.00 0.00
PAYLOAD SLA4 Velcro/Parts/SLA04 Velcro/Parts/SLA04 0.00 0.00 -52.00 396.9 0.00 0.00
PAYLOAD LES Velcro/Parts/Sat5BPC Velcro/Parts/ApolloLES 0 0.0 28.25 4241 0 1
PAYATCH ASTP-DockingModule 0.0 -0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0
END
S-IB:Skylab1973/Velcro/S-IB
STATUS Landed Earth
BASE LC-39:1
POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
LAUNCHTOWER 1
PRIMEBOOSTER 1
CENTERTHRUST 0
PADBIAS -25.000
MINPITCH 27
CAMERA 0.000 5.000 20.000
TGT_HEADING 41.000
SERIESBURN 0 S-IVB 0.0000 0.0000 -8.9000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD Fins Velcro/Parts/S-1bFins Velcro/Parts/S-1bFins 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
PAYLOAD Interstage Velcro/Parts/S4b_to_s4b_interstage Velcro/Parts/S4b_to_s4b_interstage 0.00 0.00 -37.50 2603.00 0.00 0.00
END
END_SHIPS

I assume I just allow word to change the file then simply edit the line? Is it that simple?

dgatsoulis · Mar 15, 2013

I assume I just allow word to change the file then simply edit the line? Is it that simple?

For editing scenarios yes. It's a simple text file. Use any text editor you want, as long as the extension remains the same (.scn). Notepad is simpler.

Find the line "BASE LC-39:1", delete it and give it a try. Don't leave a blank line. Example:

Original:

Code:

S-IB:Skylab1973/Velcro/S-IB
STATUS Landed Earth
BASE LC-39:1
POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00

Correct:

Code:

S-IB:Skylab1973/Velcro/S-IB
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00

Wrong:

Code:

S-IB:Skylab1973/Velcro/S-IB
STATUS Landed Earth

POS -80.561506 28.522777
HEADING 270.00

When you post your Orbiter.log file or a scenario, use

Code:

 tags. It makes reading them easier and doesn't take up that much space.

Hope this helps
:cheers:

porterguy · Mar 17, 2013

It worked for a few minutes then it crashed.

It froze up and I got a windows warning saying that orbiter has stopped working

PhantomCruiser · Mar 17, 2013

Just to be certain, you are using this on a "vanilla" Orbiter installation? Meaning new install with sound (and/or UMMU)?

I've taken a look at my Orbiter for AMSO (along with Skylab) and I've only got velcro with velcro Saturns, and Shuttle fleet installed along with it. I've also got SC3 and multistage, but those are just there, not being used.

porterguy · Mar 18, 2013

I'll try a new install. It's gonna take a lot to reinstall AMSO, shuttle fleet and a few others because it took me a bit to find them.

---------- Post added at 11:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 PM ----------

I reinstalled everything that was working before and got this message this time.

Module Skylab.dll ............ [Build 110918, API 100830]
>>> ERROR: No vessel class configuration file found for:
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: CMG
>>> [Vessel::OpenConfigFile | .\Vessel.cpp | 252]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> TERMINATING <<<

I am using Velcro rockets but I cannot remember the name of the other type. do I need those too?

I also tried launching ASTP V4.8 and it froze the program. I got not message in the orbiter.doc but I got the same windows notification

romanasul · Mar 19, 2013

porterguy said:
I'll try a new install. It's gonna take a lot to reinstall AMSO, shuttle fleet and a few others because it took me a bit to find them.

---------- Post added at 11:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 PM ----------

I reinstalled everything that was working before and got this message this time.

Module Skylab.dll ............ [Build 110918, API 100830]
>>> ERROR: No vessel class configuration file found for:
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: CMG
>>> [Vessel::OpenConfigFile | .\Vessel.cpp | 252]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> TERMINATING <<<

I am using Velcro rockets but I cannot remember the name of the other type. do I need those too?

I also tried launching ASTP V4.8 and it froze the program. I got not message in the orbiter.doc but I got the same windows notification

These two addons are required in the readme of Skylab v4.8:
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5351"]CMG v2.0[/ame]
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5363"]CMGmesh v1.0[/ame]

PhantomCruiser · Mar 19, 2013

Hang-on, I've got to give myself a facepalm :facepalm:
I confused what you were doing, I started checking my Apollo era Orbiter and got into Skylab 1980, not Dave's Skylab Fleet. I'll see if I can work it out tonight.

porterguy · Mar 19, 2013

I installed an earlier version and it works. Now is there a way to create a new scenario where the CSM is close to docking with the Skylab?

Is there a scenario creator that is so easy to use a baby could use it?

Thanks for the help thus far everyone, nice to know there are nice people online:thumbup:

garyw · Mar 19, 2013

porterguy said:
Is there a scenario creator that is so easy to use a baby could use it?

There is the scenario editor. You activate it under modules on the launchpad. It is listed as 'scn editor'.

When in orbiter hit ctrl-f4 and it should be in the list.

porterguy · Mar 19, 2013

I have downloaded a few scenario editors but like almost every addon I put into orbiter it doesn't work.

but Skylab is working, and that is good, only problem is I need to ride that Saturn 1B all the way up after waiting 13 minutes on the launch pad. Oh well, good practice for docking. Thanks again everyone:thumbup:

PhantomCruiser · Mar 19, 2013

There is no scenario editor to download, it's in Orbiter already.

Cairan · Mar 19, 2013

Just to mention, I have the same issue as the original poster, having done a brand new clean install of Orbiter on a new kick-a$$ computer at my (own!) business

But I figured there must have been something wrong I was doing, and was shameful given that I'm no novice at Orbiter ... I managed to get a little farther by creating a spacecraft2.cfg file in the config/vessels folder... still have many issues with 4.8 stuff from Dave413 ...

DaveS · Mar 19, 2013

Cairan said:
still have many issues with 4.8 stuff from DaveS ...

Wrong Dave! The author of Shuttle Fleet/ISS Fleet and other Fleet add-ons is David413.

Cairan · Mar 19, 2013

DaveS said:
Wrong Dave! The author of Shuttle Fleet/ISS Fleet and other Fleet add-ons is David413.

Sorry, I shall correct my statement ... I'm very tired watching over an exam tonight. Apologies, don't sue me for diffamation :cheers:

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