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ex-orbinaut
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Is this for real or am I being taken in by a fake video?
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Nope, seems to be real. It is all over PPruNe.
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Nope, seems to be real. It is all over PPruNe.
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Wow. That's one of the worst airplane crashes I have ever seen. Fortunately this was "only" a cargo plane. I don't want to imagine if this was a fully loaded passenger airplane...
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Horrendous. That is the only word that comes to mind.
Yes. Looks like a stall. I'm only surprised why they stalled the airplane. At high altitude they might have recovered...
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Yep...
See what's being said about the accident here. I have not the time to read it all right now. Poor chaps, they would almost certainly have known what the outcome was going to be no sooner they rotated, as the speculation of the main contributing factor seems to be load shift...
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Dropped like a rock.
There was a similar-looking accident near Moscow not so long ago, the only crash of Il-86 - something about the vertical trim suddenly going full up, causing the plane to flare, stall and drop.
Or maybe someone just didn't secure the cargo properly. This being Afghanistan, i imagine it could be military vehicles, and someone forgot to put the parking brake on...
There was a similar-looking accident near Moscow not so long ago, the only crash of Il-86 - something about the vertical trim suddenly going full up, causing the plane to flare, stall and drop.
Or maybe someone just didn't secure the cargo properly. This being Afghanistan, i imagine it could be military vehicles, and someone forgot to put the parking brake on...
Cosmic Penguin
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Amazingly the world speed record for maglev is only 7 km/h faster! (581 km/h, set by the Japanese in 2003) And the train set is only slightly modified from a production HSR train set!
I think it either was a trim away condition or a weight shift.
The landing gear was still down, which shows that they likely were in trouble already during or right after rotation. Normally they retract the gear after rotation/lift off as soon as a positive rate of climb is indicated. I assume that the airplane began to pitch up (to about 85°!) already when the airplane left the runway during rotation.
Everybody on board was aware that they will crash very likely. Horrible.
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iPad replaces aircraft manuals and airport charts...
Screamer7
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That was just horrific.
And I hope there will be soon an answer to this accident.
There are a lot of 747's flying all over the world as I speak.
I am not saying the 747 is unsafe.
And I hope there will be soon an answer to this accident.
There are a lot of 747's flying all over the world as I speak.
I am not saying the 747 is unsafe.
Cosmic Penguin
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Not safe for teenagers:
AntonÃn Dvořák: 9.Sinfonie e-Moll "Aus der Neuen Welt" - YouTube
But epic for everyone else.
Well it's safe for me and I am still (though close to barely) in the teens, so..... :thumbup:
(actually never had heard the whole New World Symphony before, only the second movement)
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Hm.
Why is it not?
Screamer7
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The general "mis" conception is that teenagers love heavy metal, rap, rock & roll etc, etc........
astrosammy
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Safe and epic for me. Unlike the stuff Screamer listed
BTW, how did the end up in the title of the video?
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Eleven days before my flight, same aircraft, same seat, same runway:
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BTW, how did the
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Eleven days before my flight, same aircraft, same seat, same runway:
MaverickSawyer
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Oops. Someone touched the GPU. The DC-8 family has always had a touchy power receptacle. Had many a morning where we had to drag a different power cart over to an MD-90 to get it powered up, as the plane rejected the gate power supply. :facepalm:
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Sadly, this is real. 8 U.S. citizens killed. Cargo was 5 military vehicles (I suspect Mine Resistant Ambush Protected class). Seems that the forward vehicle broke loose, then started a chain reaction that sent all five aft until the aircraft lost control. There was an air freighter that crashed outside of Mather Airport (former Mather AFB) about 10 years ago after falling victim to the same issue. Nearly hit the Sacramento TRACON center, too.
If you listen closely, you can hear the engines spooling up as the crew fights to save the aircraft. However, I doubt that recovery would have been possible at ANY altitude.
Screamer7
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What I read so far about this tragic accident is that they did not load any cargo at Bagram airfield.
They use it merely for refueling.
And that bring a disturbing possibility to my mind.
What if it was sabotage?
Maybe someone intently loosen or cut the straps and nobody noticed it.
They use it merely for refueling.
And that bring a disturbing possibility to my mind.
What if it was sabotage?
Maybe someone intently loosen or cut the straps and nobody noticed it.
I would say that that's just speculation at this point, Screamer; no offence intended. It looks like nothing more than a tragic accident - Occam's Razor applies in a situation like this, I believe.
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Hey, all.
Don't know if it's totally kosher to add a sport video but I just watched this game and it was fantastic! :thumbup:
I'm a hockey fan; not much of an NHL fan though after the lockouts but I am a Leafs fan - no matter how hard they make it to cheer for them (sigh).
The Toronto Maple Leafs haven't made it to the playoffs for nine years; and Game One of their quarterfinal series against the Boston Bruins certainly didn't give Leafs fans much confidence. They played like...well...idiots. :facepalm: So I wasn't really holding out much hope here but man were they a whole new team here!
The Leafs played with a discipline (something not generally associated with the Leafs :lol
and enthusiasm I haven't seen in years; it was by far one of the best hockey games I've watched in a long, long time. Great goals, superb goaltending, strong strategic play all the way through. Wonderful stuff - here are the highlights:Can't wait for game 3 in Toronto on Monday. The Leafs are bringing some serious momentum to one of the most hockey-mad cities on the continent - in two days Toronto's going to explode!
Cheers!
(P.S. 2 things: First; I didn't expect the thread would add this post to the last one; my response to Screamer. Whoops, sorry. Second; I just can't help enjoying the fact that in this series the Bruins have a player named Horton while the Leafs have one named Orr. A delicious little irony there.
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Certainly one of the quirky items of that airplane family
But I think pulling the plug without communication with the cockpit crew isn't the best thing to do. Or maybe they thought nobody was in the cockpit anymore. I can imagine that Kent (the pilot in the video) recorded the video after the last flight of that day.
Have fun!
The 737 still is my favourite airplane, and likely always will be. Derived from the 727, which in turn was derived from the 707, it's a classic Boeing (the fuselage didn't change). Actually it's the flagship (still the most sold passenger jet, and continuing). It's also a great airplane from a pilots point of view. Not too complex, and easily operated (other than the fully computerized A320 family for example). Can't wait for the new 737 MAX...
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