Idea Mercury and Gemini add-on improvements

The first one can be fixed easy. the second one I can add another COMP and see if that works. The first erorr is probably because of a duplicate in the groups. I'll check it out.

---------- Post added at 08:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:16 PM ----------

I fixed the first problem. I am working on the second.

Make this change.

[ANIM_COMP_25]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1395,1396,1397,1398,1399,1400,1401,1402,1403,1404,1405,1406,1407,1408,1409,1410,1411,1412,1413,1414,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)

See how I deleted the 1415 because there was a 1415 on Comp 26?

---------- Post added at 08:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

Add this.

[ANIM_SEQ_2]
; skid
KEY=2
INIT_POS=0
DURATION=15

[ANIM_COMP_46]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=742
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(9,0,0)

[ANIM_COMP_47]
SEQ=2
GROUPS=743
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(8.62,0,0)


Make sure that the SEQ_2 is right after SEQ_1 and the COMPs are at the bottom.
 
I'm not sure I understood you correctly. I thought I did, but when I made the adjustments you posted, I got this...

LC14error2.jpg


When the gantry retracts from the Atlas and onto the rails, all is good, except that now the carriages are WAY off the track (left picture)

and...

When the retraction along the tracks begins, that wandering strut detaches and starts floating alongside the gantry again.

:confused:
 
Post the Configuration part. I got it to work fine.

---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 PM ----------

Oh yeah I forgot to tell you something. Delete 742 and 743 from [ANIM_COMP_23].
 
BINGO!

The gantry & carriages line up perfectly!

Still got that damned mystery "floater" though...

LC14error3.jpg


Still haven't checked the whole sequence yet...any luck on the umbilicals?

Oops, almost forgot...

[ANIM_SEQ_0]
; gantry
KEY=K
INIT_POS=0
DURATION=35
[ANIM_SEQ_1]
; gantry
KEY=2
INIT_POS=0
DURATION=15
[ANIM_SEQ_2]
; skid
KEY=2
INIT_POS=0
DURATION=15
[ANIM_COMP_0]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=742,743,911,912,913,914,915,916,1358,1359,1360,1361,1362,1363,1364,1365,1366,1367,1368,1369,1370,1371,1372,1373,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_1]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1374,1375,1376,1377,1378,1379,1380,1381,1382,1383,1384,1385,1386,1387,1388,1389,1390,1391,1392,1393,1394,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_2]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1395,1396,1397,1398,1399,1400,1401,1402,1403,1404,1405,1406,1407,1408,1409,1410,1411,1412,1413,1414,1415,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_3]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1415,1416,1417,1418,1419,1420,1421,1422,1423,1424,1425,1426,1427,1428,1429,1430,1431,1432,1433,1434,1435,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_4]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1436,1437,1438,1439,1440,1441,1442,1443,1444,1445,1446,1447,1448,1449,1450,1451,1452,1453,1454,1455,1456,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_5]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1457,1458,1459,1460,1461,1462,1463,1464,1465,1466,1467,1468,1469,1470,1471,1472,1473,1474,1475,1476,1477,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_6]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1478,1479,1480,1481,1482,1483,1484,1485,1486,1487,1488,1489,1490,1491,1492,1493,1494,1495,1496,1497,1498,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_7]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1499,1500,1501,1502,1503,1504,1505,1506,1507,1508,1509,1510,1511,1512,1513,1514,1515,1516,1517,1518,1519,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_8]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1520,1521,1522,1523,1524,1525,1526,1527,1528,1529,1530,1531,1532,1533,1534,1535,1536,1537,1538,1539,1540,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_9]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1541,1542,1543,1544,1545,1546,1547,1548,1549,1550,1551,1552,1553,1554,1555,1556,1557,1558,1559,1560,1561,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_10]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1562,1563,1564,1565,1566,1567,1568,1569,1570,1571,1572,1573,1574,1575,1576,1577,1578,1579,1580,1581,1582,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_11]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1583,1584,1585,1586,1587,1588,1589,1590,1591,1592,1593,1594,1595,1596,1597,1598,1599,1600,1601,1602,1603,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_12]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1604,1605,1606,1607,1608,1609,1610,1611,1612,1613,1614,1615,1616,1617,1618,1619,1620,1621,1622,1623,1624,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_13]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1625,1626,1627,1628,1629,1630,1631,1632,1633,1634,1635,1636,1637,1638,1639,1640,1641,1642,1643,1644,1645,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_14]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1646,1647,1648,1649,1650,1651,1652,1653,1654,1655,1656,1657,1658,1659,1660,1661,1662,1663,1664,1665,1666,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_15]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1667,1668,1669,1670,1671,1672,1673,1674,1675,1676,1677,1678,1679,1680,1681,1682,1683,1684,1685,1686,1687,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_16]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1688,1689,1690,1691,1692,1693,1694,1695,1696,1697,1698,1699,1700,1701,1702,1703,1704,1705,1706,1707,1708,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_17]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1709,1710,1711,1712,1713,1714,1715,1716,1717,1718,1719,1720,1721,1722,1723,1724,1725,1726,1727,1728,1729,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_18]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1730,1731,1732,1733,1734,1735,1736,1737,1738,1739,1740,1741,1742,1743,1744,1745,1746,1747,1748,1749,1750,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_19]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1751,1752,1753,1754,1755,1756,1757,1758,1759,1760,1761,1762,1763,1764,1765,1766,1767,1768,1769,1770,1771,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_20]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1772,1773,1774,1775,1776,1777,1778,1779,1780,1781,1782,1783,1784,1785,1786,1787,1788,1789,1790,1791,1792,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_21]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1793,1794,1795,1796,1797,1798,1799,1800,1801,1802,1803,1804,1805,1806,1807,1808,1809,1810,1811,1812,1813,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_22]
SEQ=0
GROUPS=1814,1815,1816,1817,1818,1819,1820,1821,1822,1823,1824,1825,1826,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,0,-110)
[ANIM_COMP_23]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=911,912,913,914,915,916,1358,1359,1360,1361,1362,1363,1364,1365,1366,1367,1368,1369,1370,1371,1372,1373,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_24]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1374,1375,1376,1377,1378,1379,1380,1381,1382,1383,1384,1385,1386,1387,1388,1389,1390,1391,1392,1393,1394,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_25]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1395,1396,1397,1398,1399,1400,1401,1402,1403,1404,1405,1406,1407,1408,1409,1410,1411,1412,1413,1414,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_26]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1415,1416,1417,1418,1419,1420,1421,1422,1423,1424,1425,1426,1427,1428,1429,1430,1431,1432,1433,1434,1435,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_27]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1436,1437,1438,1439,1440,1441,1442,1443,1444,1445,1446,1447,1448,1449,1450,1451,1452,1453,1454,1455,1456,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_28]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1457,1458,1459,1460,1461,1462,1463,1464,1465,1466,1467,1468,1469,1470,1471,1472,1473,1474,1475,1476,1477,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_29]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1478,1479,1480,1481,1482,1483,1484,1485,1486,1487,1488,1489,1490,1491,1492,1493,1494,1495,1496,1497,1498,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_30]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1499,1500,1501,1502,1503,1504,1505,1506,1507,1508,1509,1510,1511,1512,1513,1514,1515,1516,1517,1518,1519,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_31]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1520,1521,1522,1523,1524,1525,1526,1527,1528,1529,1530,1531,1532,1533,1534,1535,1536,1537,1538,1539,1540,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_32]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1541,1542,1543,1544,1545,1546,1547,1548,1549,1550,1551,1552,1553,1554,1555,1556,1557,1558,1559,1560,1561,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_33]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1562,1563,1564,1565,1566,1567,1568,1569,1570,1571,1572,1573,1574,1575,1576,1577,1578,1579,1580,1581,1582,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_34]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1583,1584,1585,1586,1587,1588,1589,1590,1591,1592,1593,1594,1595,1596,1597,1598,1599,1600,1601,1602,1603,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_35]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1604,1605,1606,1607,1608,1609,1610,1611,1612,1613,1614,1615,1616,1617,1618,1619,1620,1621,1622,1623,1624,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_36]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1625,1626,1627,1628,1629,1630,1631,1632,1633,1634,1635,1636,1637,1638,1639,1640,1641,1642,1643,1644,1645,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_37]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1646,1647,1648,1649,1650,1651,1652,1653,1654,1655,1656,1657,1658,1659,1660,1661,1662,1663,1664,1665,1666,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_38]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1667,1668,1669,1670,1671,1672,1673,1674,1675,1676,1677,1678,1679,1680,1681,1682,1683,1684,1685,1686,1687,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_39]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1688,1689,1690,1691,1692,1693,1694,1695,1696,1697,1698,1699,1700,1701,1702,1703,1704,1705,1706,1707,1708,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_40]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1709,1710,1711,1712,1713,1714,1715,1716,1717,1718,1719,1720,1721,1722,1723,1724,1725,1726,1727,1728,1729,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_41]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1730,1731,1732,1733,1734,1735,1736,1737,1738,1739,1740,1741,1742,1743,1744,1745,1746,1747,1748,1749,1750,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_42]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1751,1752,1753,1754,1755,1756,1757,1758,1759,1760,1761,1762,1763,1764,1765,1766,1767,1768,1769,1770,1771,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_43]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1772,1773,1774,1775,1776,1777,1778,1779,1780,1781,1782,1783,1784,1785,1786,1787,1788,1789,1790,1791,1792,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_44]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1793,1794,1795,1796,1797,1798,1799,1800,1801,1802,1803,1804,1805,1806,1807,1808,1809,1810,1811,1812,1813,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_45]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=1814,1815,1816,1817,1818,1819,1820,1821,1822,1823,1824,1825,1826,
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(10,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_46]
SEQ=1
GROUPS=742
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(9,0,0)
[ANIM_COMP_47]
SEQ=2
GROUPS=743
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(8.62,0,0
 
I am going to upload the config file here so you can use it. About the umbilical, I am stumped on it. Since it is a static mesh I cannot make it flat out for a scale so it doesn't look wierd. I'll keep trying though.
 
Here is the config.
 

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Well, it's no big deal, especially on Mercury since there's only one cable, but I'll probably have to lose the umbilicals on the Agena version because there's too many of them to not look really strange if the arm retracts.
 
If it is that case on the Agena, then I can work around that and make something of it.
 
I have been away from orbiter for a very long time and I was wondering if someone may be able to help me. I recall a few years ago that there was some discussion of someone updating the Gemini EVA mesh. In fact I think it may have even been released. Unfortunately a search of this forum has revealed no results and the older forums seem to be down. I searched on Orbithanger but no luck there either.

Does anyone know what happened to the project and if it was ever released? From memory it was simply replacement meshes but they looked very good.
 
The only redone EVA mesh I recall was the Russian Orlan suit. IIRC, that was Mustard's baby...
 
This should fix it once and for all. On the [ANIM_COMP_2] delete the 1415. It is another duplicate.

You are CORRECT sir! Looking GOOD!

Now, the next question, would you be able to animate the umbilicals more easily if I segmented them?
 
I actually think it would be more confusing. Let me try this again though. I am going to try and scale it to make it shrink completely.

---------- Post added at 10:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:51 PM ----------

This will do for now.


[ANIM_SEQ_3]
;umbilical
KEY=3
INIT_POS=0
DURATION=0.1

[ANIM_COMP_48]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2625
TYPE=SCALE
SCALE=(-1,-1,-1)
REF=(0.0001,-5000000,0)
 
Can't you just give the animation component the right parent component?
 
Only on a rotation I think. I'll double look though.

---------- Post added at 02:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:03 AM ----------

Can't you just give the animation component the right parent component?
Yes. I found out that I can. Let me try that and see if it works.
 
Here is how the umbilical retraction looks like about 40% done.

Code:
[ANIM_COMP_48]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2663
TYPE=ROTATE
ROT_PNT=(15.53,7.349,0.514)
ROT_AXIS=(0,0,-1)
ANGLE=90

[ANIM_COMP_49]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2640
TYPE=ROTATE
ROT_PNT=(15.711,7.43,0.514)
ROT_AXIS=(0,0,-1)
ANGLE=59

[ANIM_COMP_50]
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2640
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(0,-0.26,0)

[ANIM_COMP_51]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2650
TYPE=ROTATE
ROT_PNT=(16.012,7.013,0.514)
ROT_AXIS=(0,0,-1)
ANGLE=58

[ANIM_COMP_52]
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2650
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(-0.44,-0.55,0)

[ANIM_COMP_53]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2639
TYPE=ROTATE
ROT_PNT=(16.473,6.740,0.514)
ROT_AXIS=(0,0,-1)
ANGLE=53

[ANIM_COMP_54]
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2639
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(-0.81,-0.79,0)

[ANIM_COMP_55]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2638
TYPE=ROTATE
ROT_PNT=(16.70,6.388,0.514)
ROT_AXIS=(0,0,-1)
ANGLE=48

[ANIM_COMP_56]
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2638
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(-1.18,-0.79,0)

[ANIM_COMP_57]
;umbilical
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2637
TYPE=ROTATE
ROT_PNT=(16.86,6.01,0.514)
ROT_AXIS=(0,0,-1)
ANGLE=36

[ANIM_COMP_58]
SEQ=3
GROUPS=2637
TYPE=TRANSLATE
SHIFT=(-1.57,-0.74,0)
 
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