Problem Ariane 6 payload spawning with no fuel

[xx_mortekai_xx]

I made a tanker upper stage for the Ariane 6 launcher (the tanker is a big one, carrying 690,000 kg of fuel. It doesnt get into orbit without supplemental boosters)

However, I have tried over and over to get it to spawn with fuel, but I cannot. I can spawn the upper stage via the scenario editor, and its full, so the config file is correct. I DO have the tank listed as a payload in the .ini file.

Does anyone have any clue as to what is going on?

 

[clive bradbury]

The fuel problem is a well-known bug with multistage. AFAIK the only way is to add fuel via the scenario editor after your ship has spawned.

 

[liber]

I made a tanker upper stage for the Ariane 6 launcher (the tanker is a big one, carrying 690,000 kg of fuel. It doesnt get into orbit without supplemental boosters)

However, I have tried over and over to get it to spawn with fuel, but I cannot. I can spawn the upper stage via the scenario editor, and its full, so the config file is correct. I DO have the tank listed as a payload in the .ini file.

Does anyone have any clue as to what is going on?

Maybe your path to tanker config file is not correct?
Mesh is visible in orbiter but not loaded a config file.

I think this is right answer:

If is your config file tanker.cfg it would not work with multistage,if would but with no fuel,you need to have payload with spacecraft3 module.

 

[xx_mortekai_xx]

Well, it looks like I'm going to be delving into spacecraft3 for vessel building. A little earlier Han I had planned, but no real problem.

Thanks for letting me know. I do appreciate it.

---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:50 AM ----------

OK, now i have a different issue. I converted the tank into a spacecraft3 vessel (i think) and its disappearing when spawned by the Ariane 6 stage.

Here is the .ini for the Ariane 6:

[MISC]
cog=14.2

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Contrail1
TEX_2=Contrail2
TEX_3=WEx
TEX_4=WEx2

[PARTICLESTREAM_1]
NAME=SRBsm
TEX=Contrail1
SRCSIZE=3
SRCRATE=150
V0=140.0
SRCSPREAD=0.3
LIFETIME=15
GROWTHRATE=5
ATMSLOWDOWN=1.0
LTYPE=DIFFUSE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-4
AMAX=2

[PARTICLESTREAM_2]
NAME=SRBex
TEX=Contrail2
SRCSIZE=1.8
SRCRATE=2000.0
V0=100.0
SRCSPREAD=0.0
LIFETIME=1
GROWTHRATE=18
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.0
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=0
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-4
AMAX=1


[BOOSTER_1]
N=2
MeshName="Ariane6JM\A6_BAC"
Height=95.0
Diameter=3.0 
EmptyMass=80000.0
FuelMass=600000.0
Thrust=13000000.0
angle=180
off=(4.8,-4.8,0)
BurnTime=180
ENG_1=(0.6,-0.6,-21.5)
ENG_PSTREAM1=SRBsm
ENG_PSTREAM2=SRBex
ENG_TEX=WEx2

[BOOSTER_2]
N=2
MeshName="Ariane6JM\A6_BAC2"
Height=31.61
Diameter=3.0 
EmptyMass=80000.0
FuelMass=600000.0
Thrust=13000000.0
angle=180
off=(4.8,4.8,0)
BurnTime=180
ENG_1=(0.6,0.6,-21.5)
ENG_PSTREAM1=SRBsm
ENG_PSTREAM2=SRBex
ENG_TEX=WEx2

[STAGE_1]
MeshName="Ariane6JM\A6_E_1C"
off=(0,0,3.1)
Height=60 
Diameter=12
EmptyMass=300000.0 
FuelMass=1400000.0 
Thrust=15600000.0
BurnTime=420
ENG_1=(0,0,-24.5)
ENG_2=(3.5,0,-24.5)
ENG_3=(-3.5,0,-24.5)
ENG_4=(0,3.5,-24.5)
ENG_5=(0,-3.5,-24.5)
ENG_TEX=WEx
ROT_SPEED=0
SPEED=2.5


[PAYLOAD_1]
off=(0,0,41.4)
MeshName="A6_Modules\A6TankUpperstage"
Module="Spacecraft/Spacecraft3"
name="FuelDeliveryTank"
Diameter=11.0
Height=28.34
Mass=720000.0

Here is the .ini for my tank:

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=exhaust_atsmb

[CONFIG]
MESHNAME="A6_Modules\A6TankUpperstage"
SIZE=28.5
EMPTY_MASS=30000.0
FUEL_MASS=690000.0
MAIN_THRUST=2279000.0
ATTITUDE_THRUST=10000
ISP=4432.54 
PMI=(56.42,56.40,13.98)
CW_Z_POS=0.09
CW_Z_NEG=1.3
CW_X=2.0
CW_Y=2.0
CROSS_SECTION=(277.70,277.89.94.50)
COG=2.0
PITCH_MOMENT_SCALE=0.00001
BANK_MOMENT_SCALE=0.00001
ROT_DRAG=(11.5,11.5,11.5)
WING_ASPECT=0
WING_EFFECTIVENESS=0
CAMERA=(0,2,-13.92)


[EX_MAIN_0]
OFF=(0,0,-13.3)
DIR=(0,0,-1)
LENGTH=1.6
WIDTH=1.85

[DOCK_0]
POS=(13.92,0,0)
DIR=(1,0,0)
ROT=(0,0,1)

Just to be thorough, here is the .scn file:

BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 12
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 56229.3617223927
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship GPLP_gpmlp
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET GPLP_gpmlp
  MODE Extern
  POS 3.58 81.65 -35.23
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 60.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_SHIPS
GPLP_gpmlp:spacecraft\spacecraft3
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -14.4367200 -7.9793080
  HEADING 0.00
  RCSMODE 0
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  RCS 0
  CTRL_SURFACE 0
  CONFIGURATION 2
  CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
  SEQ 0 -2 0.451925
  SEQ 1 2 0.922432
END
Ariane6CTanker:Ariane6JM\A6CTankUpperstage
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -14.4367200 -7.9793080
  HEADING 90.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000 2:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIG_FILE Config\Ariane6JM\A6CTankUpperstage.ini
  GUIDANCE_FILE Config\Ariane6JM\A6C.txt
  CONFIGURATION 0
  STAGE_STATE 2
  STAGE_IGNITION_TIME 0.000000
  CURRENT_BOOSTER 1
  CURRENT_STAGE 1
  CURRENT_INTERSTAGE 1
  CURRENT_PAYLOAD 1
  FAIRING 0
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

BEGIN_ReFuelMFD
  SCENARIO_TREE 
    NAMED Computers
      NAMED GPLP_gpmlp
        BottomDockIndex -1
        BottomTankIndex 0
        BottomVent 0
        PumpRate 0
        TopTankIndex 0
      END_NODE 
    END_NODE 
  END_NODE 
END

BEGIN_uap
END

I have been screwing around with this for hours now, and nothing is changing. Its getting frustrating.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[liber]

[MISC]
cog=14.2
FOCUS=1 ; this you can add if you want after pressing J automaticly set focus on tank


[PAYLOAD_1]
off=(0,0,41.4)
MeshName="A6_Modules\A6TankUpperstage"
Module="Spacecraft/Spacecraft3"
name="FuelDeliveryTank" ; this must be a exact name of your ini file locate in spacecraft folder
Diameter=11.0
Height=28.34
Mass=720000.0
RENDER=1 ; to see mesh in flight

All look fine here.

Ariane6CTanker:Multistage\Multistage2
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -14.4367200 -7.9793080
HEADING 90.00
AFCMODE 7
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000 2:1.000000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIG_FILE Config\Multistage\A6CTankUpperstage.ini
GUIDANCE_FILE Config\Ariane6JM\A6C.txt
CONFIGURATION 0
STAGE_STATE 2
STAGE_IGNITION_TIME 0.000000
CURRENT_BOOSTER 1
CURRENT_STAGE 1
CURRENT_INTERSTAGE 1
CURRENT_PAYLOAD 1
FAIRING 0
END

Check red line.
To be sure that all work use multistage and spacecraft folder.

 

[xx_mortekai_xx]

Thank you for your help and guidance.

I will try that when I next get the chance.

EDIT: IT works! Thank you so much.