Scenario Constant unexecutable quicksaves

[blonk]

Why won't now THIS one work? Its constant with 2016.

BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 68876
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 52001.5023073363
  Help CurrentState_img
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship X1C
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET X1C
  MODE Cockpit
  FOV 78.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_PANEL
END_PANEL

BEGIN_SHIPS
X1C:XR2Ravenstar
  STATUS Landed Earth
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  HEADING 359.23
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  IDS 0:199 100
  NAVFREQ 94 524 84 114
  XPDR 193
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  LAST_ACTIVE_SECONDARY_HUD 0
  ADCTRL_MODE 0
  TAKEOFF_LANDING_CALLOUTS 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
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  LOX_QTY 1.000000
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  DMG_13 1.000000 Right SCRAM Engine
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  DMG_17 1.000000 Right Retro Engine
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  DMG_28 1.000000 Outboard Upper Star. RCS
  DMG_29 1.000000 Outboard Lower Port RCS
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  DMG_31 1.000000 Forward RCS
  DMG_32 1.000000 Bay Doors
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  INTERVAL2_RUNNING 0
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  TEMP_SCALE 2
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  IAIRLOCK 1 1.0000
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  EXTCOOLING_STATUS 1
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  SKIN XR2RM1
  LIGHTS 0 0 0
  PARKING_BRAKES 0
  XR1UMMU_CREW_DATA_VALID 1
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X1C_Bay:XRPayloadBay
  STATUS Landed Earth
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  ATTACHED 0:3,X1C
  AFCMODE 7
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

 

[dbeachy1]

I just tested that here and it works fine for me. What exactly is the error you are seeing? Can you post your Orbiter.log file? Are you testing in a clean installation?

 

[blonk]

I just tested that here and it works fine for me. What exactly is the error you are seeing? Can you post your Orbiter.log file? Are you testing in a clean installation?

It just doesn't load, the error seems to be outside the error handling message boxes of Orbiter

Edit:

using fresh 2016, simply filing things as I did with with my 5 years experience with oribter which I love

 

[Urwumpe]

It just doesn't load, the error seems to be outside the error handling message boxes of Orbiter

Can you explain this observation a bit more precise?

 

[Face]

Why won't now THIS one work?

Version incompatibility. Corrupted installation. Additional modules and/or plugins that cause crashes.
Many such things are possible.

Please post a log. Without it, we can only offer guesses.

 

[jedidia]

It just doesn't load, the error seems to be outside the error handling message boxes of Orbiter

The message boxes don't really tell you much. They're from the system, not orbiter.
There's a file called orbiter.log in the sims root folder, that's where Orbiter logs its errors. We'll need the contents of that file to help you.

 

[Marijn]

simply filing things as I did with with my 5 years experience with oribter which I love

But what are you filling in and why? Your scenario contains:
BEGIN_SHIPS
X1C:XR2Ravenstar
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 73.5294550 4.1780680

That's the Indian Ocean.

The scenario should load though.

 

[blonk]

OrbiterSound 3.5 ver. May 13 2007  Log Started
***********************************************

Vessel X2C requested an ID, returned= 0 OK 
Vessel X1C requested an ID, returned= 1 OK 
attempting focus change...
Focus not ready bypassing focus change - Ok
Attempting RenderViewport initialisation...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Initialising directsound...
directsound initialised - OK
Passed RenderViewport - Ok
Attempting Mp3 initialisation...
MP3 found in playlist =  1
Mp3 initialised - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
Attempting to load Mp3...
Mp3 error->unable to load  sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> unable to load= sound\mp3\Bach_Air_on_a_Gstring.mp3
MP3 ERROR-> To much error disabling Mp3 playing
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok
attempting focus change...
Attempting GetStartValue initialisation...
Passed GetStartValue - Ok
Focus changed attempting to load vessel wave
Focus changed load vessel wave - OK
focus changed - Ok

I have run quicksave since then this iswhat I have, and may not pertain to the file at all..


Please consider that what I am complaining about is a runnable 2016 quick save, I time lapsed, switched locations and saved. So Many of the arguments made here (its an addon its this or that) are invalid. aAlso, there is no error handler. I have been getting a lot of unexutable quicksaves from 2016.

---------- Post added at 05:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:15 PM ----------

But what are you filling in and why? Your scenario contains:
BEGIN_SHIPS
X1C:XR2Ravenstar
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 73.5294550 4.1780680

That's the Indian Ocean.

The scenario should load though.

Thats a base location I downloaded, its an island



Also, can someone tell me why EVA evacuated people just fall through the center of the world when EVA'd from the craft. Also, why does 2016 seem like a downgrade in every aspect?

 

[Urwumpe]

That log looks odd. Did you try to use Orbitersound, despite it not working in 2016?

 

[Face]

OrbiterSound 3.5 ver. May 13 2007  Log Started

Also, can someone tell me why EVA evacuated people just fall through the center of the world when EVA'd from the craft.

OrbiterSound 3.5 and UMmu are addons that are not fully compatible with 2016.

Please consider that what I am complaining about is a runnable 2016 quick save, I time lapsed, switched locations and saved. So Many of the arguments made here (its an addon its this or that) are invalid. aAlso, there is no error handler.

Also, why does 2016 seem like a downgrade in every aspect?

This attitude will not get you very far here. Please tone it down a little, so we can focus on getting your problem solved. If you keep it up, I - for one - will certainly stop responding.

On the topic, it is a well known problem with the incompatible UMmu that saves that focus an UMmu with internal view crash on startup. Perhaps this is what you are experiencing.

 

[jedidia]

Also, why does 2016 seem like a downgrade in every aspect?

You mean, like, the flat planetary spheres with blobby textures downgraded to fully realistic 3-d terrain? Or touchdown points being downgraded from a simple "triangle pointing downwards" to a collision mesh that can interact with terrain? Or dockports being downgraded to also work on the ground? Sheesh, I dunno, but my best guess is because it's AWESOME! :lol:

 

[Urwumpe]

You mean, like, the flat planetary spheres with blobby textures downgraded to fully realistic 3-d terrain? Or touchdown points being downgraded from a simple "triangle pointing downwards" to a collision mesh that can interact with terrain? Or dockports being downgraded to also work on the ground? Sheesh, I dunno, but my best guess is because it's AWESOME! :lol:

Yeah. But after 6 years of development it also broke a few add-ons. Could be bad, but isn't IMHO. It just shows that its time for new people to keep the flame burning.

 

[dbeachy1]

Also, be advised the the shipping XR versions use neither UMMu nor OrbiterSound anymore: they use XRSound now. Please see the XR download page for details.

The first thing I would do is create a clean Orbiter 2016 install -- do not install UMMu or OrbiterSound, neither of which work correctly in Orbiter 2016. Then download the latest XRSound and XR vessel(s) from my Web site, and everything should work.