Humor Eurovision Song Contest 2017.

[Notebook]

More fun and games for the show.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39367029

Russia's state-controlled television has rejected an offer from organisers of the Eurovision Song Contest to allow their nation's contestant to perform via satellite link.
Channel One said that the offer for Julia Samoilova to perform in the event in Ukraine remotely was "strange".
Samoilova has been banned from Ukraine, which hosts this year's contest, for entering annexed Crimea via Russia.
The Kremlin had called for a rethink of Ukraine's decision.

 

[Urwumpe]

More fun and games for the show.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39367029

Well, Russia should have known that she can't enter the Ukraine, so of course it is a typical "we are the victims here" game. Would an artist be searched for a crime in a host country, he would be really stupid to take part, since the ESC performers have no diplomatic immunity. :lol:

 

[Notebook]

Bit of a short statement from the EBU;

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...icipation_in_the_2017_eurovision_song_contest

Hopefully they can sort this out.

Good news is, the UK will probably be expelled from the EBU after Brexit, so no more last place...

N.

 

[Urwumpe]

Good news is, the UK will probably be expelled from the EBU after Brexit, so no more last place...

Well, EBU and EU are different groups, so its unlikely to be related to the Brexit. More likely is just some Brexit momentum cancelling everything with "European" in the name... like the European continent. :lol:

 

[Soheil_Esy]

22 Mar at 15:18


Statement from the EBU regarding Russia's participant in the 2017 Eurovision Song Contest:

It has been confirmed to the EBU that the Ukrainian authorities have issued a travel ban on the Russian artist chosen for the Eurovision Song Contest, Julia Samoylova, as she has been judged to have contravened Ukrainian law by entering Crimea in order to perform.

We have to respect the local laws of the host country, however we are deeply disappointed in this decision as we feel it goes against both the spirit of the Contest, and the notion of inclusivity that lies at the heart of its values.

We will continue a dialogue with the Ukrainian authorities with the aim of ensuring that all artists can perform at the 62nd Eurovision Song Contest in Kyiv in May.

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?...icipation_in_the_2017_eurovision_song_contest

See no irony.:rofl:

Published on Mar 13, 2017

Julia Samoylova will represent Russia at the 2017 Eurovision Song Contest in Kyiv with the song Flame Is Burning

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu5kSWkZqOI​

 

[Notebook]

Must admit this is the first I know of that a performer/country has had this kind of trouble.

The whole idea of the Eurovision Song Contest is it promotes harmony.

Never mind, F1 is up and running.

N.

 

[Urwumpe]

I should not be precisely the first case... but the first time it was escalated that far. Usually such a "political jury" like used in Russia should be knowing that there are additional constraints. When the ESC came to Baku with very obscure laws, it was negotiated in advance that the participants of the ESC got some some freedom than the native citizens...Also politicians in Greece demanded Lordi to be banned from the ESC back then, before Lordi won.

I this case, it is simple: Two sides escalating to the limit and in the end, its not about winning this battle, but just about not losing it and keeping your face. In the end, its doubtful that the Ukraine will compromise, they have more to lose there. For Russia, it is far less important. Its just the ESC, which is far to homosexual for Russia anyway. Being forced to not take part could actually just add to the national mythology and be the more favorable outcome.

 

[Notebook]

You think Russia could be banned from the competition?

N.

 

[Urwumpe]

You think Russia could be banned from the competition?

N.

No, but Russia could be requested to send another artist. Russia could get banned from the EBU, but why? This now is first of all a Russia-Ukraine thing, boiled up from the disputed status of Crimea. Nothing that should matter to the EBU now.

 

[Notebook]

Eurovision Song Contest: Russia pulls out over Ukraine ban

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39596927

 

[orb]

Oh nice, well played for a greater purpose.

Sometimes I think there should be 2 threads for Eurovision, one here and another in The Basement.

 

[Notebook]

I hope it doesn't descend into The Basement, Eurovision was never meant to be taken seriously. Must admit I can only watch a few minutes at a time, and only have the audio up for the commentary.

N.

 

[orb]

I hope it doesn't descend into The Basement,

Nah, for as long as nobody will want discuss the politics behind these decisions I see no reason for descending there. Of course if someone wants to discuss that, The Basement is open for duplicated topics and another kind of discussion inside them.

Eurovision was never meant to be taken seriously.

Well, for some Eurovision is a serious business. :lol:

 

[C3PO]

Well, for some Eurovision is a serious business. :lol:

... and many of them live in Australia. :huh:

 

[Notebook]

Just in case you had forgot:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39847422

Eurovision on front line: Will Russia's absence spoil Ukraine's party?
By Steve Rosenberg
BBC News, Kiev

N.

 

[Urwumpe]

Just in case you had forgot:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39847422
N.

Considering that the same Russian MPs that called for a ESC ban because it is too liberal for them, now demand that Russia has to be allowed to take part... its really ironic. :lol: Why don't they stick to their primary solution to all problems with Europe and make an Eurasian Song Contest. Which is just like the ESC, but with Russia automatically getting 10 points of each vote.

Sadly, they can't just send their artist to another country, like Canadia did with Switzerland once to let the 20 year old Celine Dion win the ESC.

 

[Artlav]

Considering that the same Russian MPs that called for a ESC ban because it is too liberal for them, now demand that Russia has to be allowed to take part... its really ironic. :lol:

Another ironic thing is that it used to be upside down - earlier this century it was gay russian singers performing in a homophobic europe.

 

[Urwumpe]

Another ironic thing is that it used to be upside down - earlier this century it was gay russian singers performing in a homophobic europe.

Yeah. Though they had not been openly gay at that time ... it took a while for the Europeans to realize what they had created.

Just remember, it was still a small sensation that a mayor of a big German city openly declared "I'm gay and i'm fine with it" in 2001. :lol:*

The times are changing... you can't have "same rights for men & women" in the German constitution since 1948, but need until 1958 to abolish the law that the husband is allowed to decide that his wife must quit her job... and need until 1977 to have a law that states that wives don't need to ask their husband before they can accept a job. Until 1977, the German laws had a clear patriarchal definition what a marriage should be like and which roles there are... then came the liberals and declared that both partners are equal and both have the same rights and obligations regarding their marriage. :rofl: (My parents had been among the first married according to the new standards.)

* Fun Fact: 2001 was the year in which three European metropolis elected an openly gay mayor for the first time: Paris, Berlin and Hamburg.

 

[jedidia]

and need until...

1990 until all female citizens had full voting rights! :lol:

 

[Urwumpe]

1990 until all female citizens had full voting rights! :lol:

Well, from 1971 to 1990 in case of Switzerland. About the same duration :lol:

And that mostly because of the rather slowly operating political system (contrary to what theorists about direct democracy assume)... The first Kanton already had full female voting rights in 1959.

(Germany just needed to lose another war to get it)