Idea Save the Whales

[jimblah]

http://www.seashepherd.org/who-we-are/the-fleet.html

We can help:

To provide assistance we need the following:

The Sea Sheppard Fleet:

Steve Irwin

Bob Barker

Yoshka

Gojira

2 zodiacs

and a dinky helicopter.

The Ady Gil would be awesome too but technically she's at the bottom of the arctic sea.

One Japanese Factory Whaling Ship

Equipped with Nets and Long Range Acoustical Devices.

Environment: Position the Sea Sheppard Fleet around the Factory ship. One could be deploying a prop fouling line. The only animation I would like to see is arcing pots of butyric acid from the fleet towards the factory ship from all directions.

Sea Shepherd skin for the Delta Glider, XR-2 Ravenstar, maybe even the TX-5 heavy lifter all armed with butyric acid. (The TX-5 with a payload full)

Ditto for anything in LEO that might possibly be made to Orbit within striking range of the coordinates of the whaling ship: The Shuttle Fleet, ISS, etc all armed with butyric acid.

A new DG Stunts scenario comes to mind where you leave an airport or base in Australia and rendezvous with the Sea Shepherd Fleet. There you must fly low enough to deploy your stinky butter, but high enough to avoid being hit by friendly fire. If friendly fire limits your visibility severely enough, you must fly back home by instrumentation.

For the sound module splat sounds and LRAD noise.

I know the Japanese have given up this year but I have a feeling they'll be back. (While I wrote this I kept wanting to spell shepherd, "Shepard")

 

[Urwumpe]

Orbiter is a pretty poor ship simulator... in Rigs of Rods, you would have a better free engine for that.

 

[jimblah]

The ships I've seen inthe hangar would suffice.

Particularly the ones for Wideawake Harbor. For water realism I like VirtualSkipper. Once in awhile I'll forfeit the race just to sail around and do my own thing. I'd like to create a dolphin addon for VS and use different skins for different species. For now I would like something to target that doesn't involve blood and gore. Perhaps to suggest this so close to the recent aftermath of the tsunami was inappropriate.

 

[Urwumpe]

No, I don't actually want to talk about any ethic implications of that, that is your personal business, I just mean that technically, Orbiter isn't the best place for ships.

You can have ships here, no problem, but without these ships having spaceflight impact, it is just as fascinating as sitting on the floor with water line ship models (1:700 scale, Japanese manufacturer) and make engines noises.

If you want to save the whales... there are quite many satellites in that business around, as strange as it might feel in first place.

 

[garyw]

Loru did some nice ship meshes which I've converted into UCGO but even using UCGO + Universal Cargo Deck and adding cargo containers to a ship makes for a dull few hours of getting from A to B and what you are requesting is a whole level above that.
The sea in Orbiter is just a flat blue plane. No depth at all so as urwumpe has already pointed out there are other & better sims for this.

 

[T.Neo]

Since Orbiter is not that good for your usual whale saving, how about Saving the Space Whales?

On a related (and a good deal more plausible, surprisingly) note, how about Save the Skywhales? :lol:

 

[Loru]

Hmm
save the trees
save the bees
save the whales
save those snails...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

 

[Izack]

Since Orbiter is not that good for your usual whale saving, how about Saving the Space Whales?

Well, we already have the whales...

Give me a UCGO Arrow and 40 minutes and I'll see what I can do. :rofl:

 

[Star Voyager]

Here's something to transport them:

[ame="http://orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=58"]Klingon Bird of Prey[/ame]

 

[Izack]

 

[jimblah]

Its always up to the other guy.

Loru did some nice ship meshes which I've converted into UCGO but even using UCGO + Universal Cargo Deck and adding cargo containers to a ship makes for a dull few hours of getting from A to B and what you are requesting is a whole level above that.
The sea in Orbiter is just a flat blue plane. No depth at all so as urwumpe has already pointed out there are other & better sims for this.

Other sims don't have the Delta Glider or the Ravenstar or the TX-5 to deliver the butyric acid.

If I did this I would include a recipe for butyric acid downloaders could use to replicate what they use on the show. Then they could smell it themselves for an added sense of realism. :lol:

The whales in space shots were awesome. Is that part of a private addon collection?

 

[Pinguinboy]

That's how we like to see it! :thumbup:

Well, seems that I'm kinda the only Sea Shepherd Supporter here. :yes:

 

[Izack]

The whales in space shots were awesome. Is that part of a private addon collection?

The whales are from the [ame="http://orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=975"]Whale Probe[/ame] addon; I only added a docking port to George.

 

[jimblah]

Sea Shepherd Supporter

That's how we like to see it! :thumbup:

Well, seems that I'm kinda the only Sea Shepherd Supporter here. :yes:

At first I was a Sea Shepherd Scoffer. I was sure someone was going to get killed. Watching them trapped in ice with the hull of the ship being crushed was comical. Watching the Ady Gil get run down was hilarious. The social dynamic of the Sea Shepherd crew was most enjoyable. After I saw the South Park episode based on the show, I just couldn't watch it with a straight face anymore.

But this year they got results. I love whales. They have my respect and my gratitude.

 

[T.Neo]

I'm skeptical of people like the Sea Shepherds. Their actions are borderline terrorism and speak of desperate juvinile intensity rather than a composed political solution that would probably be more seriously accepted.

There is a big difference between warranted conservation and ill-formed idealistic nonsense (a la PETA, etc). There is even data that population trends of some whale species might allow sustainable hunting, though as with many things one cannot be sure as to whether this is unfounded or partially researched propaganda.

One thing I cannot stand though, is passing off a commercial whaling enterprise as "scientific research". This is utter rubbish; even if whaling can be done sustainably and responsibly, it is despicable to pass it off as some sort of scientific research.

I agree though that these organisms are beautiful and I personally hate to see them being hunted... particularly in technologically orientated Japan, one would wonder why it has not been researched to instead grow whale meat in vats...

 

[Pinguinboy]

I'm skeptical of people like the Sea Shepherds. Their actions are borderline terrorism and speak of desperate juvinile intensity rather than a composed political solution that would probably be more seriously accepted.

First, organisations like the IWC and countries like Japan brand them as terrorists, because the IWC and Japan are pro-whaling. Nobody ever died during their campaigns. Second, political solutions go on slower then direct-action. And the Japanese politics already ignored the compromises to stop this.

 

[T.Neo]

I'm not talking about the IWC or Japan or anyone pro-whaling. I'm not even calling them terrorists, I said "borderline terrorism".

Which is pretty much what "direct action" is. Just because nobody has died yet, does not mean someone- either a whaler or a Sea Shepherd activist, could in future.

It's destructive, juvinile, and not the proper way problems like this should be resolved.

 

[C3PO]

I'm not talking about the IWC or Japan or anyone pro-whaling. I'm not even calling them terrorists, I said "borderline terrorism".

Which is pretty much what "direct action" is. Just because nobody has died yet, does not mean someone- either a whaler or a Sea Shepherd activist, could in future.

It's destructive, juvinile, and not the proper way problems like this should be resolved.

:hesaid:

I think the correct term would be "vigilante". My beef with people like that is that their opinion is ranked higher then the law. The end justifies the means is the motto.

 

[Wishbone]

In days of yore, direct action was THE euphemism used to describe sabotage, terror attacks, diversions, assassinations and other nasty undercover stuff.

 

[Ghostrider]

In days of yore, direct action was THE euphemism used to describe sabotage, terror attacks, diversions, assassinations and other nasty undercover stuff.

Yeah. We used to refer to them as "fun & games".