Idea Shuttle Fleet recompile for Orbiter 2016

[gattispilot]

Everything appears now, but the stage seems under powered: max thrust is 267.3 and the apogee barely increases. The fuel mass is 8.85k. Could there be a decimal issue somewhere in the .dll?

not sure what the values should be.

---------- Post added 10-13-19 at 05:51 AM ---------- Previous post was 10-12-19 at 05:51 PM ----------

So from the article:

A KM NOZZLEANTENNATLM iATTEHV SAFE a ARMISS/LAGEDS SCPARAT10N PLANEFig. 3 - LAGEOS SystemA separation subsystem will permit satellite deployment without contact with the LAS structure. Then, a yo-tumble will unbalance the LAS structure by means of a mass release to avoid recontact. Both functions are pyrotechnically actuated.The telemetry and beacon subsystem is composed of a decoder, transmitter and related antenna for:* tracking and acquisition of the LAS during transfer orbit and insertion into final orbit* data acquisition of the LAS status during operations* tracking of the LAS after satellite releaseThe on-board power is initially supplied by the IRIS system while LAGEOS is still in the Orbiter cargo bay. After separation from IRIS, power to LAGEOS is provided by 6 Ag-Zn 28-V batteries operating for a minimum of 90 minutes up to 4 days (telemetry batteries).The solid propellant rocket motor is the Mage 1SC, qualified by the European Space Agency and successfully utilized as an apogee motor installed in many European satellites.The Mage 1SC has a specific impulse of 290.4 s for a total energy of 11.7 x 10 E 5N in the case of maximum propellant loading. It can be off-loaded up to 20%, depending on mission requirements.The LAGEOS system weighs 911 kg:* 405 kg for the satellite* 38.5 kg for on-board avionics (batteries included)* 387.5 kg for the Mage motor* 80 kg for the primary and secondary structures, separation subsystems, thermal control, ktrness and ballast misses

Total mass excluding Lageos is 502. So maybe 100kg fuel and 402 mass? isp 290.4 and max thrust 1170000
?

---------- Post added at 07:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:51 AM ----------

Also working on a payload for sts 109.

Will not be functional just static. Not sure on textures on the pallet. I am going with a white and gold/orange foil on the rest?

 

[Star Voyager]

Here’s what the ERAU article lists.

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks.

So Lageos2 is 409KG
So make IRIS mass 1574 including 1270 propellant?
ISS mass 1003

IRIS MAGE1sc engine thrust values?
The Mage 1SC has a specific impulse of 290.4 s for a total energy of 11.7 x 10 E 5N in the case of maximum propellant loading.
so ISP 290.4 and max thrust 1170000?

 

[Marg]

Just wanted to notice that in STS-52 addon CTA.dll is missing.

CTA:CTA line in scenario shows there must be CTA.dll, isn't it?

 

[gattispilot]

No dll just a cfg:

; === Configuration file for the sts01 Bridgerail===

Meshname = STS_PAYLOADSNEW/CTA
Mass = 1
Size = 4.0

EnableFocus = FALSE
EnableXPDR = FALSE

;===attachments===
BEGIN_ATTACHMENT
P .102 .582 0.0  0 1 0  0 0 1  GS
P 0 0 0  0 1 0  -1 0 0  XS ;SHUTTLE
END_ATTACHMENT

 

[Marg]

Oops, thanks, I totally forgot about the existance of these ordinary .cfg files, when there is no need for spacecraft3\4 .ini or .dll files.

 

[gattispilot]

I guess there is still the question of mass,thrust,propellant mass for the iss and iris

this is what I have for sts 109:

 

[Star Voyager]

Found it (page 5):

http://majdalani.eng.auburn.edu/courses/09_propulsion_1/Papers/AIAA983980_Uhrig.pdf

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks so for the IRIS I get:

void STS52IRIS::clbkSetClassCaps(FILEHANDLE cfg)
{
	// physical specs
	SetSize(7);
	SetEmptyMass(157);//maybe extre 409 lageos?
	SetCW(0.3, 0.3, 0.6, 0.9);
	SetWingAspect(0.1);
	SetWingEffectiveness(0.1);
	SetCrossSections(_V(2.73,3.41,3.53));
	SetRotDrag(_V(0.1, 0.1, 0.1));
	if (GetFlightModel() >= 1) {
		SetPitchMomentScale(1e-4);
		SetBankMomentScale(1e-4);
	}
	SetPMI(_V(.61,.53,.78));// .88, .99, .84
	SetTrimScale(0.05);
	SetCameraOffset(_V(0, 2, 1));

	EnableTransponder(true);


	INTELSAT = CreateAttachment(false, _V(0, 0, 0), _V(0, 1, 0), _V(0, 0, 1), "LAGEOS", true);
	
	SetMeshVisibilityMode(AddMesh(oapiLoadMeshGlobal("STS_PAYLOADSNEW/STS52IRIS2")), MESHVIS_ALWAYS); //Main ship mesh

	PROPELLANT_HANDLE tank3 = CreatePropellantResource(FUELMASS);
th_main[0] = CreateThruster(_V(0, 0, 0), _V(0, 0, 1), 66000, tank3, ISP);

const double FUELMASS = 1574;//2400
const double ISP = 291;//33000
const double MAXRCSTH = 50;//500

Going with specs for the IRIS. Looks like the MAGE1 is listed. It is the rocket for the ISS
so thrust=34KN mass empty looks to be:39.3 fuelmass410 isp291

---------- Post added 10-15-19 at 04:22 AM ---------- Previous post was 10-14-19 at 06:58 PM ----------

like this:

just the dlls for 2016. if ok then I will redo the 2010
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nq9aXxC_p2tb6TMA5WC0NGt34UcYVh1V

 

[Star Voyager]

The only thing I’d change would be the propellant mass of IRIS to 1270 kg, unless you’re planning on using it with other launchers.

 

[gattispilot]

updated iris:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p7FOBAGdAFnMsWctou1AbUiVB4wdlWfG


sts109 for 2016. Must have HSt_ex
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1htY4Zs22DlVsNeqZs8NwhqQWdM9N1PLR

Launch time was 11 utc and it was still dark for the launch

---------- Post added 10-16-19 at 05:06 AM ---------- Previous post was 10-15-19 at 04:18 PM ----------

So here sts109 in orbit.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LPvciQ6YzDNdoqk-IdJyVD0Qwj3SNUCc

and new modules for 2010which are the same for 2016 for sts52.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LPvciQ6YzDNdoqk-IdJyVD0Qwj3SNUCc

So on the payload for sts109. it is static. I think with a little code? the FSS could rotate and grap the HST

But the forward section seems bare.

compared to this:

I would say the sts2016 is about 99% ready. Just maybe update sts109. the doc need to be redone. Keys added,......

This is what I have right now:

SpaceTransportationSystem2016

Thanks to Barry Golden and Ricardo Nunes we have a working 2016 Space Shuttles. We are using MS2015 for Launches. So for launches you need an ini and guidance files for each launch. Hatch is the animation state for the airlock hatch. Armtilt Animation state of the MPLM. EVA (0 no eva 1 eva has happened). OV (Orbiter Version) This tells which mesh to be seen. OV98-Pathefinder (Fictional), OV99-Challenger, OV101-Enterprise, OV102-Columbia, OV103-Discovery, OV104-Atlantis, OV105-Endeavour, OV106-Constellation, OV107-Intrepid (Fictional repaint) and OV108-Constitution, OV109-ConstellationUSA (Fictional repaint), OV111-EndeavourUSA (Fictional repaint), OV112-AtlantisUSA (Fictional repaint),OV121-STSSHUTTLEUSAF(Fictional repaint),OV140-STSAmerica (Fictional),OV141-STSDestiny (Fictional),OV149-STSSHUTTLETWA(Fictional repaint). FLOOD1-6 (0 Payload bay lights off)(1 Payload bay lights on).AFT_LIGHT (0 Aft wall light off)(1 Aft wall light on). RMSLIGHT (0 RMS light off)(1 RMS light on)Inspired by Shuttle Fleet for attachments and Camera locations.

Keys:
Shift +E Opens/Closes Exterior airlock door
Shift +V Camera At RMS Elbow
Shift +Z Camera at ODS Docking point
Shift + F ArmSEQ
Shift + X Arm tilt
Shift + S RMS Speed
Control + Space Opens Dialogue Window
Control + B All or nothing Speedbrake
Control + U KU antenna
Control + V Camera at RMS End
Control + 8 Stops RMS action
COntrol + X OBSS tilt
Control + 6 ArmInput
Control + J Open/Close External Fuel Hatches
Alt + 1 Release Drap chute
G Landing Gear
K Cargo bay doors
8 Grapple
9 Full RMS Input
, increase speed brake
. decrease speed brake
B wheel brake
E Eva If No eva this will create a Eva guy if eva has happened it will delete the guy
2,3,4,5 Camera views in Payload Bay
V Camera in Cockpit

LINES in the SCN
USEIUS tells Attachment points PL1 and PL4 to tilt up
SPIN0 spin rate for sts 49 Intel sat launch uses attachment 0 PL1
SPIN1, SPIN2, SPIN4, SPIN5 are for satellite launches spin at 50 rpm along z axis
SPIN3 launches 30 rpm 0 PL1.
ODS shows ODS mesh
OBSS Shows OBSS
NOCHUTE no drag chute
MID Columbia MID change

So in the SCN:

STS-1:Shuttle2016B
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6208630 28.6270927
HEADING 180.57
ALT 0.000
AROT 99.922 -54.902 51.216
ATTACHED 0:0,ET-1
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 3
GEAR 0 0.0000
HATCH 0 0.0000
Armtilt 0 0.0000
EVA 0
OV 102
ORIGINAL
ARM_STATUS 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
ARM_SEQ1 0.5000 1.0000 1.0000 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
ARM_SEQ2 0.5000 1.0000 1.0000 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
ARM_SEQ3 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
ARM_SEQ4 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
SAT_OFS_X 0.000000
SAT_OFS_Y 0.000000
SAT_OFS_Z -2.500000
FLOOD1 0
FLOOD2 0
FLOOD3 0
FLOOD4 0
FLOOD5 0
FLOOD6 0
DOCK_LIGHT 0
AFT_LIGHT 0
RMSLIGHT 0
END




ADD-ONs for certain scenarios:
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7029 Shuttlefleet High detail ET and SRB's
https://simviation.com/1/browse-Orbiter+Addons-142-1 Space Shuttle Fleet V4.8 Release 2
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4716 STS-1 Payloads
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5593 Sunnyvale STS Missions
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=6752 STS-66 MISSION English
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=6651 CHANDRA-X and I.US.
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7036 LC39A+B for ShuttleFLeet HD
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7233 HST(EX) for Orbiter2016
PAYLOADS:
https://simviation.com/1/browse-Orbiter+Addons-142-0 STS Payloads Expansion Pack for Fleet V4.8
http://web.archive.org/web/20071016...angar.com/addons/STS_Payloads_version2.01.zip STS PAYLOADS v.2.01
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7036 LC39A+B for ShuttleFLeet HD
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7233 HST(EX) for Orbiter2016

For Daedalus you will need to download and copy the MGAtlantis texture to 2016Spaceshuttle texture folder and rename to DAEDALUS2016
For Moonraker you will need to download and copy the MGAtlantis texture to 2016Spaceshuttle texture folder and rename to Moonraker
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=3962 Project Daedalus
https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2784 Moonraker-07

which mesh is it:

OV == 007 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSMOONRAKER2016

OV == 98 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSPATHFINDER2016

OV == 99 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Challenger\\Challengerlate2016G
OV == 99 && ORIGINAL 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Challenger\\ChallengerORG2016g

OV == 101 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSENTERPRISE2016

OV == 102 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Columbia\\ColumbiaLATE2016D
OV == 102 && ORIGINAL2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Columbia\\ColumbiaORG2016F
OV == 102 MID 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Columbia\\Columbiamid2016a
OV == 102 MID && ORIGINAL 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Columbia\\Columbiamid2016a

OV == 103 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Discovery\\DiscoveryLATE2016G
OV == 103 && ORIGINAL 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Discovery\\DiscoveryORG2016G

OV == 104 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Atlantis\\Atlantis2016F
OV == 104 && ORIGINAL 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Atlantis\\AtlantisORG2016F

OV == 105 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Endeavour\\Endeavour2016D
OV == 105 && ORIGINAL 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Endeavour\\EndeavourORG2016E

OV == 106 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Constitution\\Constitution2016D

OV == 107 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Intrepid\\Intrepid2016D

OV == 108 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Constellation\\Constellation2016D

OV == 109 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Constellation\\ConstellationUSA2016D

OV == 111 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSSHUTTLEENDEAVOURUSAF2016
OV == 112 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSSHUTTLEATLANTISUSAF2016

OV == 140 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSAMERICA2016

OV == 141 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSDESTINY2016

OV == 142 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSEXPLORER2016

OV == 143 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSDAEDALUS2016

OV == 149 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\STSSHUTTLETWA2016

Default 2016SPACESHUTTLE\\Discovery\\DiscoveryORG2016G

SCENARIO KEYS:
STS-49:
G stops/starts the rocket from rotating
K releases the satellite
STS52
ISS:
G stops/starts the rocket from rotating
K releases the IRIS and docks to ISS
IRIS:
G stops/starts the rocket from rotating
K releases the satellite

And something that maybe add is an early sts1ish cockpit. Just like the other shuttle MFD will be functional.

It looked like the shuttle cockpit are changed per mission.

 

[Star Voyager]

They went from a somewhat analog cockpit to a glass cockpit in the late 90s/early 00s after each OMDP.

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks. So do we want the FSS to rotate and attach to the HST for sts 109?

 

[Star Voyager]

That would be cool, glad to see this all coming together!

---------- Post added at 05:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:02 PM ----------

Just tested the new 52 dll’s for 2010, it seems like there were no changes and the stack spins the opposite way upon release.

 

[gattispilot]

Weird so no thrust,mass changes? I can reverse the rotation direction The dll are the same for 2010 and 2016. So I wonder if the direction needs to be changed also

 

[Star Voyager]

Didn’t appear so, the mass is still listed as 9953.22 kg and thrust was still 267.3 N.

 

[gattispilot]

so fix the rotation but it seems the mass and thrust are different:
new modules for 2010 or 2016
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PI7HmTY71GWpHK7WlMOaJpY6lEWv4vQY

---------- Post added at 05:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:37 AM ----------

Sts109 for 2016 with HSt attached.

But how do you detach the HSt from the shuttle?



On the mass. Since the ISS and IRIS are docked. Should the mass be the total of them and the LAgoes? Then when undock the mass should be just the ISS?

 

[Donamy]

Thanks. So do we want the FSS to rotate and attach to the HST for sts 109?

Check your mail.

 

[gattispilot]

So a new sts109 scn and mesh,..... Using the hst code the HSt auto attaches to ring.

New press K to detach the HST. It springs off. May need to press twice? Because of auto attach it has to spring off before it is in range.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1713jV_AIog8DzruUq-_gnaa9sxnQz6ux

This will be part of the whole release. To get to work in 2010 may need some work.

And got sts125 to redo for 2016. These and the sts 52,.... maybe separate from the whole package

---------- Post added at 04:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:45 AM ----------

Also new modules for sts52. 2010 and 2016 use the same.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fYbEJ-KdEjBYYzLX7QRCaNRt2kkManIr

So it seems to get the HST off the shuttle you may need to attach it to the rms and move it. Makes sense.

 

[Donamy]

Yes the HST was always moved into position for release, above the Shuttle's bay for release.