General Question Venus Space Station

[NovaSilisko]

...and Ceres! :hotcool:

 

[Felipi1205]

And Makemake :hotcool: let's comeback to the main topic! How is going the project of a venusian space station?

 

[Alfastar]

And don't forget Haumea

But enough fftopic:

My idea: launch the spacecrafts and the station spacecrafts with a Falcon X or a Falcon X heavy, with a upper stage (maybe a DM-2 :hmm: )

 

[ggrof]

Well, i will test now a Energy Rocket using space tugs: Smerch and 2 DM as upper stages. The last DM i will use to do course corrections and insert in the Venusian orbit (although the aerobraking in the Venus atmosphere seems really interesting ) First, i will launch a test module: A Leonardo.

If I knew working with velcro rockets, my life would be easier

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Test one: failed hehe

There´s a problem with this strategy: if I put 2 DM (one for course correction, another for orbit insert) the ship became too heavy for TVI Burn. With 1 DM and the module, the TVI is ok, but there isn´t enough Delta V for orbit insertion

And I couldn´t do that aerobraking. I passed very near in the atmosphere and nothing

But the sunset in venus orbit was wonderful hehe

I will try the Falcon Heavy

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One more problem hehe...i will need Delta V for intercept modulesin the venus orbit.
I´m thinking about to build a little station in the Earth Orbit and send it to Venus in two parts using some upper stage.

 

[ggrof]

I´m trying aerobrake in venus. Really, is the most economic way but most difficult too. In what vector Have I to burn to avoid be catched by the planet? I´m trying to escape from Venus Gravity using a Space Tug DM-2

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Try experimenting with a probe so you can see which altitude works best for aerobraking.

 

[ggrof]

the best for venus is about 6135k. Is necessary to do any burn during or after? Does Aerobrake MFD works?

 

[Felipi1205]

6135km? What? The dense atmosphere seems to end at 100km!

 

[ggrof]

sorry...i mean M and not K
Anyway, the aerobrake starts at 6156M

 

[Pipcard]

6 km? I think that's too low.

 

[Izack]

sorry...i mean M and not K
Anyway, the aerobrake starts at 6156M

That's 6 million kilometres. Much too far away to even orbit Venus.

 

[Felipi1205]

Yes... So maybe 100-90km.

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With M he is talking Meters...

 

[Izack]

With M he is talking Meters...

M means Mega, or one million units. 6M is six million unspecified units, 6m is six metres.

And if he meant 6km, I hope he likes broiled astronaut. :lol:

You're right - 90-100km is a reasonable altitude for aerobraking. I suppose the exact value for this mission will be determined closer to Venus encounter. Best of luck to that spacecraft.

 

[ggrof]

man, i´ve been tried aerobraking for hours and hours. In this case, there´s no another solution for orbital insertion...i guess...

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yes!! i´ve made it!! periapsis at 6135 Rad, then prograde burn near periapsis against excessive velocity low. A perfect elliptical orbit, with a good quantity of fuel.

well, is possible. The best configuration is a Energy Rocket with a smerch and a DM-2 and the module using trans X. Aerobrake MFD is not necessary. The challenge now is dock the modules in the Venus orbit (billions and billions of dollars...would be cool to do a "money waste simulator for space missions MFD hehe" )

 

[Felipi1205]

This is nice! Good luck!

 

[Izack]

Awesome! Congratulations.

6135 Rad

Oh!! It all makes sense now! :rofl:

 

[ggrof]

i have discovered a perfect launcher to build a Space Station in Venus: Ariane 6

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First module sent: A neesys module as core (unfortunately i couldn´t find a way to send availabe core modules like Mir 2 or Hera. There´s another core module?)

 

[PhantomCruiser]

http://www.orbiterfrancophone.com/index.php?disp=addons&id=55

This can work maybe?

 

[sitha241]

Wil this affect yours aerobrakeing?
http://www.universetoday.com/93494/is-venus-rotation-slowing-down/

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Wil this affect yours aerobrakeing?
http://www.universetoday.com/93494/is-venus-rotation-slowing-down/

Don't think it would.