HST SM5???

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The purpose of this thread is to discuss the possibilities/feasibility/need for a fifth servicing mission to the Hubble Space Telescope.

With all the buzz lately about STS-125 being the "last ever opportunity" for humans to visit Hubble to make repairs/upgrades, I was just wondering: It is Really?

Hubble was originally designed to be returned to Earth in 2009 in the payload bay of Shuttle Columbia, on what would have been STS-144, but that mission was scrubbed after the Columbia disaster. The reasoning being: Why launch an empty shuttle to retrieve a useless payload? It would be impossible to have an ISS mission launch a payload to the ISS, then retrieve Hubble, as Hubble & the ISS are on different orbits (ISS = 51.6° / HST = 28.4°).
So, instead of having a useless telescope stuck in orbit (currently, all Hubble's gyroscopes are slated to fail by 2010), NASA decided to launch STS-125 to extend Hubble's life until at least 2014, whereupon the current plan is to have an unmanned vehicle meet with it in orbit & de-orbit it to burn up in the atmosphere.

The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) will be the successor to Hubble, however that will only be an infrared telescope, although it will be able to observe more distant objects than Hubble. That is currently planned to be launched around June 2013 on an Ariane 5 rocket, into MEO (Medium Earth Orbit).
Below = the JWST - just not as grand as Hubble, is it:P
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So, back to the idea: I read an interesting article the other day HERE that got me thinking. Is STS-125 really the last chance for humans to go to Hubble? It will definitely be the last chance for the Shuttle to go to Hubble, but STS-125 will install the SCM (Soft Capture Mechanism), so any future vehicle that uses that docking system will be able to rendezvous with Hubble & berth itself to it. I saw this picture of a possible scenario, and to me it seems ingenious:
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As the Orion spacecraft will probably be tasked with de-orbiting Hubble anyway, as it will be cheaper then developing a robotic craft, why not have Orion service the HST? Obviously, Orion has no payload carrying capability, but why not develop a system depicted in the above picture? Just a payload carrier to the same dimensions as the existing Shuttle payload bay, with a docking mechanism at each end. That way all current Hubble science instrument carriers & other payloads that use the Shuttle TPAS (Trunnion Pin Attachment System) could fly in the future. Ideally, this payload carrier would be better launched on the Jupiter 120 rocket as detailed in the DIRECT proposal (which I fully support, as it brings this kind of capability to NASA). Below is an example of how the Jupiter 120 could carry the payload carrier (see rocket third from left).
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However, I guess this payload carrier could be launched on a separate rocket such as the Delta II, then Orion could rendezvous with it on orbit & take it to Hubble. The Orion could dock to one end of the carrier, and the other end could berth to Hubble. The payload carrier also features an airlock. Also, the SpaceX Dragon capsule could maybe be used instead of Orion. Of course, a fully robotic mission to service the HST could be a possibility, but I doubt that a robot will be able to get anywhere near the dexterity & precision of humans, which is required to service the HST. Just look at STS-125: To repair the STIS instrument, astronauts will have to remove 111 tiny screws to gain access to a circuit board they need to replace. I'm no robotics expert, but I just can't see a robot doing that - not yet anyway.

So it would seem there are many opportunities to return to Hubble if we really wanted to, but the question is, do we really need to? Given Hubble’s achievements already, some would say it would certainly be beneficial to keep it going for as long as possible. But other may not agree – Hubble has been in orbit since 1990 – in 2 month’s time (Apr 2009), it will have had 19 years in orbit. Is it worth pursuing plans to keep Hubble alive?


My opinion: If it is possible, then do it. However, if another telescope can be built with the same capabilities as Hubble (but obviously more advanced) then I would say there is little point in repairing Hubble.

But maybe you disagree?

Please, discuss here.



-Pete
 
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Only an infrared telescope? :rofl:

Infrared telescopes see way more of the universe as telescopes using visible light. Even Hubble has some IR capability.
 
Delta II is out since it can't carry the payloads(maximum fairing diameter is 10 ft vs the 15 ft that the shuttle uses). Plus, not much ability to launch much into a HST orbit. The Delta II is more suited for the smaller payloads.

And the Titan familiy is retired. The last ever Titan IVB flew in October 2005 from Vandenberg AFB. Which leaves either the Atlas V 552 or Delta IV Heavy.

Those are the only current US ELVs with the payload capacity of a mission such as the one you propose.


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Only an infrared telescope? :rofl:

Infrared telescopes see way more of the universe as telescopes using visible light. Even Hubble has some IR capability.
Yes, in the form of NICMOS(Near-IR Camera and Mass Object Spectrometer). Was successfuly revived in 2002 with a cryo cooler after it's original refrigurant had evaporated away due to an unforseen heat short.
 
Only an infrared telescope? :rofl:

Infrared telescopes see way more of the universe as telescopes using visible light. Even Hubble has some IR capability.

What I mean by "only" is that it will not be able to do multiple things, like Hubble can. Hubble has many different imaging instruments to view objects in different ways, however JWST will only be able to view in infrared. It will not be able to view visible light or UV light, which Hubble currently can do:)

Delta II is out since it can't carry the payloads(maximum fairing diameter is 10 ft vs the 15 ft that the shuttle uses). Plus, not much ability to launch much into a HST orbit. The Delta II is more suited for the smaller payloads.

And the Titan familiy is retired. The last ever Titan IVB flew in October 2005 from Vandenberg AFB. Which leaves either the Atlas V 552 or Delta IV Heavy.

Those are the only current US ELVs with the payload capacity of a mission such as the one you propose.

Aah, yes. I suddenly remembered about Titan just after I posted:)
What about the SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy?
 
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F9H: Not proven and probably won't be by the time HST is in need of another servicing mission. Currently there are no orders for any F9Hs.
 
What I mean by "only" is that it will not be able to do multiple things, like Hubble can. Hubble has many different imaging instruments to view objects in different ways, however JWST will only be able to view in infrared. It will not be able to view visible light or UV light, which Hubble currently can do:)
1. Ground based telescopes with adaptive optics and interferometry have already exceeded Hubble's capabilities in the visible region. Just think how much further they will have come by the time SM5 came around in 2014.

This star is 500 light years away (image includes size comparison with Earth):
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http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=27586
[FONT=geneva,arial,verdana][SIZE=-1]"T Leporis looks so small from the Earth that only an interferometric facility, such as the VLTI at Paranal, can take an image of it. VLTI can resolve stars 15 times smaller than those resolved by the Hubble Space Telescope,"[/SIZE][/FONT]
2. JWST will easily trump Hubble's IR capabilities.

So what would be the point? IMHO, SM5 would fit better in a romantic novel than in real life...
 
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