In the tool industry, it's "get some sparks for the erosion machine!" :lol:
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I wouldn't count on that. Just look at the religion based off of pokemon. Yes there is a religion based on pokemon. The creators started it as a joke and then a few weeks later they revealed the joke but alot of the followers just said basically YOU LIE! Then continued on.
I wouldn't count on that. Just look at the religion based off of pokemon. Yes there is a religion based on pokemon. The creators started it as a joke and then a few weeks later they revealed the joke but alot of the followers just said basically YOU LIE! Then continued on.
Well, if we are going to make a 'hoax' using Orbiter, we might as well make it educational while we do it. Perhaps to show how incredibly easy it is to fake things these days, and that you shouldn't believe everything that you see. We could put together a nice document at the end, explaining HOW we did it, and hopefully that will be enough to have people question what they read on the internet. The hoax should have some blatant errors in it that we can point out at the end, sorta like a 'Did you catch this' type thing. It would shoe people that, after even a minute amount of examination, some theories just fall apart. If we could make a few people smarter through this, I'm all for it.
I hope nobody shoes me...fireballs619 said:It would shoe people that,
Well, if we are going to make a 'hoax' using Orbiter, we might as well make it educational while we do it. Perhaps to show how incredibly easy it is to fake things these days, and that you shouldn't believe everything that you see. We could put together a nice document at the end, explaining HOW we did it, and hopefully that will be enough to have people question what they read on the internet. The hoax should have some blatant errors in it that we can point out at the end, sorta like a 'Did you catch this' type thing. It would shoe people that, after even a minute amount of examination, some theories just fall apart. If we could make a few people smarter through this, I'm all for it.
The problem with that is that there are awfully lot of people with write-once, read-only brains. One hears or sees something, and it gets stuck in the absolute-truths-memory, where no amount of evidence could remove it.Well, if we are going to make a 'hoax' using Orbiter, we might as well make it educational while we do it. Perhaps to show how incredibly easy it is to fake things these days, and that you shouldn't believe everything that you see. We could put together a nice document at the end, explaining HOW we did it, and hopefully that will be enough to have people question what they read on the internet.
I think I've run into one of those before. He posts "Nibiru" videos on youtube but he's actually filming mundane objects in space (Mars, the star Dubhe, etc) and he deliberately misreports the coordinates to make it seem like it can't be any ordinary object but is in fact a new object coming into our solar system that can only be seen with an infrared camera. When he first appeared I set out to disprove him both by running unbiased astrometry of his images to show their true coordinates and by observing the coordinates he claimed to be filming with an infrared sensitive camera/telescope combo of my own. I was almost immediately attacked by a single very determined person who claimed I wasn't really capable of filming in infrared and said something that suggested it was immoral to debunk the hoax because it was important for people to believe in Nibiru so that they would start making preparations. This person, whether he really was the video's author or not, truly thought the ends justified the means even if it meant creating a hoax. It's rare, but there are indeed people out there who will justify hoaxes in their minds, particularly if they think the fate of the world is at stake, and blame others for discrediting the overall claim by debunking their hoax rather than realize the damage was self-inflicted.There *might* be a weird combination of the two, a case where someone is totally convinced of something despite there being any evidence whatsoever, and forges some evidence to gain support to "get to the bottom of it", in a "the ends justify the means"-line of thinking, but I'd say they are pretty rare, since it takes a person with a heavy double morality and absolute conviction to pull it off. Such a combination should be rare to find in a more or less sane person.
I concur with your thoughtful analysis.I hereby suggest that what we see with mythological conspiracies and hoaxes is an emerging 21. century western eschatology.
The problem with that is that there are awfully lot of people with write-once, read-only brains. One hears or sees something, and it gets stuck in the absolute-truths-memory, where no amount of evidence could remove it.
Once again, think of the children before making such an experiment.
At least keep the hoax reasonably harmless.