Project Forum Orbiter Italia team on a new space station

[fausto]

The next beta relase will be avaiable in a few days.. i will post here the link.. don't warry!:thumbup:

 

[Submariner]

This is fantastic! Having a space station with a detailed interior has been an Orbiter dream of mine! I'm not sure my PC will be able to handle it though.

So, you say you will be able to travel around inside the station. Do you mean you will actually be able to " fly " a UMMU around inside, or just move to different camera positions like in a virtual cockpit?

 

[fausto]

Yes submariner.. this is our goal.. your astronaut will be able to go from one module to another, open hatches, moving antennas, using the space station telescope, going outside..
And that's not all: the station will be fully assembled with missions and docking maneuvres.. it a BIG challenge

 

[Usquanigo]

Phenomenal project! Can't wait.

You say that it's going to be assembled in orbit from individual modules (which is awesome), will you be able to make the spinnind section work that way, or will you have to assemble it static, stop the simulation, do a quick swap in the scenario file, then go back in and find it spinning (which works too)?

Also, will the individual modules be able to be used with other pieces or in another order? Like if I wanted to use the spinning section on a station of my own design, could that work? (unless I've missed it, this is one thing missing from all station module packages on O-H, they seem all designed for building ISS style stations with no spinning areas)

 

[fausto]

MMhh.. i'm sorry my english is not so good.. what do you mean when you say "spinned section"? Can you tell me in other words?
However (if i understand your question) the station will be assembled one module to another, launch to launch. The typical mission is:
1) Launch of the module to the right orbit plane, (4 launches in a year starting from 15 January 2030 for a total of 17 launches)
2) Low cost rendez-vous procedure (developed by our team)
3) docking by using a special Space Tug called "Ercole" (you can see it in a picture some posts above)

The station (SSI GAIA) will support astronaut life after the 5th launch. The launchers will be the "Jarvis" series avaiable on Orbit Hangar. The launch base is Aurora Launch Platform.

You can use our modules with wathever you want.. they have docking ports!:thumbup:

 

[Usquanigo]

MMhh.. i'm sorry my english is not so good.. what do you mean when you say "spinned section"? Can you tell me in other words?
However (if i understand your question) the station will be assembled one module to another, launch to launch. The typical mission is:
1) Launch of the module to the right orbit plane, (4 launches in a year starting from 15 January 2030 for a total of 17 launches)
2) Low cost rendez-vous procedure (developed by our team)
3) docking by using a special Space Tug called "Ercole" (you can see it in a picture some posts above)

The station (SSI GAIA) will support astronaut life after the 5th launch. The launchers will be the "Jarvis" series avaiable on Orbit Hangar. The launch base is Aurora Launch Platform.

You can use our modules with wathever you want.. they have docking ports!:thumbup:

Thanks.

What I meant by the spinning section was, the part that rotates to create artificial gravity, like a wheel with the person on the inside. (sometimes on stuff like the Deepstar, it's just 2 modules on the end of a long shaft that spins. Babylon 5 is another example, that entire station spun, and all Earth Force ships all used spinning sections (I suppose rotating would be a better choice of words than spinning))

 

[fausto]

SSI Mission 3: Connection A Module + Cargo Docking Module.. the "Ercole" Tug performs final docking operation..

 

[PhantomCruiser]

Far out guys! It's looking better and better.

 

[docabn]

nice work!!!

 

[astrosammy]

Amazing! I've never seen such a good tug! And the interior! There are many modules that have a simple interior, but this is the first one that I see that has windows .

:thumbup:

 

[ddom2006]

This looks incredible already :tiphat:, Can't wait to see it progress even more. Great work guys :thumbup:

 

[wehaveaproblem]

This is a very impressive project, congrats to the Italia team. It looks well thought out and designed. From what I can see it looks quite efficiently modelled too. What's the estimate on total poly count?

And lol @ the cup and saucer in the control room! How very proper!

 

[fausto]

Poly count and frame rate don't seem to be a serious problem at the moment!

 

[fausto]

SSI 5 - October 23, 2030 - Cargo Module docking complete.. Space Tug maneuvers improved! Tests with the Verrazzano MV module for orbit adjustment after 9 months of atmosphere drag!

 

[fausto]

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23930532/SSi_Gaia_Beta_20100823.rar

this is the first beta test of the SSI2 and SSI2 missions. Instructions and flight plans are in italian There is also a very low energy rendez-vous procedure manual, which can be useful for all spacecraft!

Mandatory add ons are:

[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4233"]Aurora Launch Plat. V3.0[/ame]

[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4527"]Jarvis Heavy Launch Vehicle 1.5 - Full Package[/ame]

Multistage2 and spacecraft3 by vinka.

NOTE:
for this mission you'll have to deactivate the "nonspherical gravity source" parameter in the orbiter launchpad

For details, click the link below:

http://orbiteritalia.forumotion.com/

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[PhantomCruiser]

:woohoo:
You guys are something else, fantastic work.

edit...
Looks fantastic, but I was wondering if I was supposed to separate the first module from the Jarvis upper stage once I'd reached a table orbit? I did and the mesh for the station module disappeared. I ran the second mission (SSi 2) and it was still attached, so I figure I'd messed up... but I had to run the mission from the start, trying to run "SSi 2 CMG activated" resulted in a crash to desktop.

The module interiors are a most excellent touch, they look great!

 

[fausto]

The first module must be attached to the last stage.. the separation will take place in the second mission, during the final docking maneuvre.
If you have a CTD, can you post here your Orbiter.log file, so we try to find out where is the problem?
Thanks!

 

[PhantomCruiser]

Here you go... This is from SSi 2 final MSI approach. The CMG activated log looks much the same. I did take her from launch to rendevous, but I'm not yet attempted to dock. I love the looks of these modules!

edit... After looking at this I see I'm missing some textures. Are they perhaps from an earlier version of the Jarvis and Aurora?

**** Orbiter.log
Build Jun  6 2010 [v.100606]
Timer precision: 3.58016e-010 sec
Found 0 joystick(s)
Devices enumerated: 6
Devices accepted: 5
==> RGB Emulation
==> Direct3D HAL
==> Direct3D T&L HAL
==> Direct3D HAL (RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory)
==> Direct3D T&L HAL (RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory)
Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build ******, API 060425]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiRegisterMFDMode
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module InterMFD422.dll ....... [Build 100704, API 100603]
Module AeroBrakeMFD.dll ...... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module BaseSyncMFD.dll ....... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module LolaMFD.dll ........... [Build 100823, API 100606]
Module Meshdebug.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module LuaMFD.dll ............ [Build 100606, API 100606]

**** Creating simulation session
DirectDraw interface OK
Direct3D interface OK
Graphics: Viewport: Fullscreen 1280 x 768 x 32
Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
Loading 8816 records from star database
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 100217, API 100215]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
Module Io.dll ................ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
Finished initialising world
Module Multistage2.dll ....... [Build ******, API 050206]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Missing texture: Jarvis\J_adapter.dds
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 750]
---------------------------------------------------------------
Module Spacecraft3.dll ....... [Build ******, API 060425]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: VESSEL::SetBankMomentScale
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Missing texture: piattkenya\soppad.dds
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 750]
---------------------------------------------------------------
Finished initialising status
Finished initialising camera
Finished initialising panels
Finished setting up render state
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiGetStationCount
At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
future versions of Orbiter.
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Missing texture: piattkenya\soppad.dds
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 750]
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Missing texture: piattkenya\soppad.dds
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 750]
---------------------------------------------------------------
**** Closing simulation session

**** Creating simulation session
DirectDraw interface OK
Direct3D interface OK
Graphics: Viewport: Fullscreen 1280 x 768 x 32
Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
Loading 8816 records from star database
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 100217, API 100215]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
Module Io.dll ................ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
Finished initialising world
Module Multistage2.dll ....... [Build ******, API 050206]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Missing texture: Jarvis\J_adapter.dds
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 750]
---------------------------------------------------------------
Module Spacecraft3.dll ....... [Build ******, API 060425]
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Missing texture: piattkenya\soppad.dds
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 750]
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Could not load vessel module:
>>> [Vessel::LoadModule | .\Vessel.cpp | 5432]
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: ssi_gaia\Supportovitale
>>> [Vessel::LoadModule | .\Vessel.cpp | 5433]
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Could not load vessel module:
>>> [Vessel::LoadModule | .\Vessel.cpp | 5432]
---------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: ssi_gaia\abitativo
>>> [Vessel::LoadModule | .\Vessel.cpp | 5433]
---------------------------------------------------------------

 

[fausto]

i don't think the problem to be missing textures, because when tou load the launch scenario Jarvis and Aurora platform are still there. It's a module problem.. mmh that's strange.. are you using Orbiter 2010 or 2006?

However, try to extract this little patch into your orbiter folder:

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/23956062/SSi_Gaia_Beta_20100823_fixed.rar

 

[PhantomCruiser]

I still have my '06 install, but I'm mainly using Orbiter 2010 right now. I'll try the patch when I get home. Thanks!