Gentlemen...
I do hope that GV will still go on. I can say that it most certainly will live on in my hangar. IMHO a lot of things has been gained for the community with the birth of GV and has also given rise to ideas (as well as some heated debate)
There are also some bugs in the SC3 code that has been eradicated with GV. So for me no point in leaving GV unless something better emerges - And having read the new feature list of SC4 I still think that GV is way ahead of even SC4 (perhaps some minor details apart).
And then there is the whole Open source/GPL thing. Should we go back to "closed coding" where no one can pick up from others when they leave the community...(I'm almost attempted to say H... no - but good manners forbid this :-D)
So...I'm glad that you emailed Vinka and hope that he will reply positively to your suggestion. Else I have a lingering fear that are walking backwards instead of progressing.
We already ARE back to closed coding. After the GPL discussion, you would be a fool to open your code. Either you give it up completely and don't care if people steal from you, or you risk your work being called illegal by trolls here. Better keep it as restricted as possible, less BS that way.
Huh.After the GPL discussion, you would be a fool to open your code.
Huh.
Can someone give me a TL;DR on that discussion?
(Preferably longer than the above phrase.)
:facepalm:
Face, eat a Snickers (Disclaimer: unless you are allergic). You are not you, when you are hungry.
Huh.
Can someone give me a TL;DR on that discussion?
(Preferably longer than the above phrase.)
I hope this doesn't scare Vinka away !!! :facepalm:
But for Face there must have been a mortal insult contained somewhere there, as he goes Cato the Elder in any opportunity here.
Name calling. But no problem, Cato the Elder is cool with me. :lol:
There was no mortal insult, just the public accusation that my addons are somehow illegal just for the use of a specific license. You know, the thing that is explicitly forbidden in the guidelines? Somehow it is OK to do that for GPL here. It is discrimination of a specific license, plain and simple. And yes, that pisses me off to no end, thank you very much.
Well, its hard to find a better description for the specific kind of cross-posting of yours. Carthago delenda est.
After all, how long are you going to put our energy into this scorched earth tactic? I don't think it is a behaviour that contributes positively to the community. Sure, you can now go like "Why me?" on why I say this to you and not on the license trolls (or fools, I am not sure). I would answer "Why not?", just in case. You can do better, I expect less from the other side of the conflict.
Uhm. You do realize that that very topic was one of the reasons why I said you can consider genericvessel dead, yes? Why is it cross-posting, if it contributed to the statement in a large part? It was also one of the major points in the later postings.
Did the existence of the GV project only depend on the license?
Yes! Thank you. This was the whole point for me to start genericvessel: to start a replacement project with GPL, in order to prohibit all the drama about vinka not updating his framework back then. This specific license was (for me, at least back then) the best bet to guarantee that nobody comes along, hijacks it, makes it closed somehow (or dependent on closed parts), and furthermore pulls another vinka on the community.
Everything else makes zero sense to me. Now that Vinka is back and puts out version 4, of course all the users will use that. Keep in mind that they don't care a single bit about implications of licensing schemes, they just want to use it to bring out their addons. Of course that might be short-sighted, but you can't really blame them for it. Well, perhaps those who were bit already once...
These things together make it a dead project for me.
Maybe I have really not understood OSS yet. :shrug:
It is your personal decision. Just don't blame others for "forcing" you to decide that way.