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We've all got them, see if any of yours are in here:-

http://www.icmacentre.ac.uk/soldier/database/search.php

This database should be used with care, as unlike the muster roll database a protection or attorney only indicates an intention to serve, rather than actual service.


Wow, medieval solicitors had their own contracts, there's a surprise...

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No Douglass's either. I wonder how much surnames have changed over 500+ years. Suppose some will dissapear or change out of all recognition.

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Sadly, there is no such database for Germany, only High England...
 
The Arts and Humanities Research Council (AHRC) has awarded a Research Grant worth just under £500,000 to Dr Adrian Bell of the ICMA Centre and Professor Anne Curry of the University of Southampton to challenge assumptions about the emergence of professional soldiery between 1369 and 1453.
The project has an innovative methodological approach and will be producing an on-line searchable resource for public use of immense value and interest to genealogists as well as social, political and military historians. The project employs two Research Assistants over three years and also includes one Doctoral Research Studentship - all of whom began work on 1st October 2006. The whole team is working on a jointly authored book, conference papers, and articles.

Looks like the project is finished, and these are the reults.
I've tried all the surnames of friends and family, and only one turned up. And he's Irish! So ir may be worth trying some common German surnames?

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So ir may be worth trying some common German surnames?

Would not work out, except maybe for those people who served the English crown ;)
 
Tried the NASA first seven, and got 78 Carpenters and a couple of Shepards. Guess the old "trade" surnames survive best. Surprised there's no Coopers though.
No Gagarin, guess that would have stood out in ye olde England.

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No Gagarin, guess that would have stood out in ye olde England.

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Right, that should be looked for elsewhere:
http://www.gagarin.com/tree.html

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I'm surprised he got off the ground with that lot behind him!;)

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Seems the few distant namesakes I have on there were all archers on expedition in France, serving under some rather regally named Dukes and Earls. One was even under the Command of Henry V apparently. Long bows ftw ;)
 
I'm surprised he got off the ground with that lot behind him!;)

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To quote Yuri, "I don't know any princes or nobles among my relatives - I never heard of them". Even if there had been some connection to the Gagarin house, it had to be denied in the Soviet time, or it would be too heavy to get off the ground with, indeed.
 
Was gagarin aware of his ancestors, and told to keep quiet about it?

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No Douglass's either. I wonder how much surnames have changed over 500+ years. Suppose some will dissapear or change out of all recognition.
Thanks for sending me off on a Google-journey searching for the history of my family name.

I did find some alternative spellings but none of those showed up in the database. I did find this rather flattering document in the National Library of Australia: Origin of the Name of Blaxland. Apparently my family does have some medieval history:
[c. 1191]Reginald de Blaxland is among those who received honors and rewards from the lion-hearted king...

[c. 1553]When Queen Elizabeth was in bondage under Mary Tudor, John Blaxland was the captain of her guard...

[c. 597]...he (John Blaxland of Blaxland Towers) on the first meeting of that grand reception [of St Augustine] presented St Augustine with a grant of land for the future abbey... The Blaxland's were possessors of nearly all the Isle of Thanet in the days of King Ethelbert...
I also found this:
[c. 1769]John Blaxland was considered to be one of the handsomest men of his day...
Well, I reckon the genes survived to the current generation :P, although from what I can tell my line probably split from that Blaxland line sometime earlier. In an interesting twist of fate, I am presently living just a few kilometres from the site of Brush Farm, established by that John Blaxland along with his brother, Gregory Blaxland, the first man to find passage across the Blue Mountains to Sydney's west. :speakcool:

Anyway, thanks for prompting me to find that history. :cheers:
 
Your'e welcome, though I would keep quiet about the bondage ancestor.
c. 1553]When Queen Elizabeth was in bondage under Mary Tudor, John Blaxland was the captain of her guard...
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I suppose you could try getting The Isle of Thanet back, or at least back-rent.

Nothing exciting about Douglass, the extra 's' dosen't mean anything just an affectation. Probably Scots descent, we are quite close to the border.

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Unfortunately Morgan is too common a name to be sure which ones (if any) are related to myself. Would this include Welsh soldiers, or just English soldiers?
 
Certainly looks like they include Welsh soldiers, they include one as a profile:-

John Fort esquire of Llanstephan
http://www.icmacentre.ac.uk/soldier/database/Fort.php

After this date, no more is heard of him with certainty. Whether his estates were ever returned to him is a moot point; it is tempting to believe that they were not, for in 1405 a John Fort can be found serving as an archer in the expeditionary army led by Sir Richard Arundell. This army was dominated by men from the squirearchy of the southern principality and the march. Perhaps the most interesting of these was Thomas Bannow, merchant and burgess of Carmarthen who had in 1403 been captured at sea and subsequently ransomed by the Scots, only to be robbed and imprisoned by the townsmen of Walsall on his way home. Other notable figures include Sir John Scudamore, William Sourdeval of Brecon, John Pichard of Blaenllyfni, Brecon, John Somerys of Dinas Powys, Glamorgan; such examples could easily be multiplied. [19] John Fort could well have been listed among such men, the gentiles homines of their communities, descended from English and Welsh roots. Though remaining loyal in a time of rebellion, his circumstances appear greatly reduced. John’s eventual fate is not known, but it appears that he died without heirs, a fate he shared with his brother Thomas for their estates passed to their bastard uncle, Thomas Fort of Robertston West, Pembrokeshire (d. 1432). [20]

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Maybe it ran in the family...?

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