Question Prom: Asking a girl

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While I do not know a lot of you guys on a personal level, I feel my "status" here is neutral enough to ask this kind of question without to much...um...ridicule. Plus, I've kinda separated myself from my other online friends for a bit...so yeah.

I'm a Junior at my High School, and Prom is coming up soon. There's this girl named Julie that I like, and I want to ask her to prom. But, there are a few problems:
-Shes a grade lower then me (so, she wouldn't be going to prom if I didn't ask her)(and about her and I being in the same math class: I'm one year ahead of where I should be, so that makes her two years ahead of where she should be)
-I only see her during Math class, and a little bit during the next class
-I don't know if she likes me/has a boyfriend
-I am never able to catch her alone (and no, I don't mean that in a molester sense)
-The people that sit by us in math class would probably laugh/react in a bad way if I asked her in-front of them

So, I'm almost SOL. But I don't want to give up. So, from your 3rd person, unbias point of view, what would be the best solution for me? I don't want to accept giving up, but if that's the only real option, then I guess I have no choice.

Also, we just got back from a week of spring break (today), and she was in Costa Rica for the ENTIRE break (Orchestra trip). She didn't come back today (she got back at school at 5 A.M), so she'll be back tomorrow. I'm thinking of using that as a starting point for a conversation.
 

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Just ask her to go to the prom. She'll either say yes or no.

And your plan is fine. Talk to her, then ask if she will go to the prom with you.
 

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Sounds like a fine plan. As FDR would have said: "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Just be yourself and don't worry about your peers laughing. Good luck.

-Shes a grade lower then me (so, she wouldn't be going to prom if I didn't ask her)(and about her and I being in the same math class: I'm one year ahead of where I should be, so that makes her two years ahead of where she should be)
That's a bonus - she might enjoy Orbiter ;)
 

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That's a bonus - she might enjoy Orbiter
:rofl:
You're funny!
That'd be one awesome girlfriend if she did. Although I think Orbinauts are few and far between...
 

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I suggest the tactic of "Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"

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No, I don't get many dates. Why do you ask?
 

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Just make sure you talk to her and don't do what I did and..."she'll be there tomorrow" because one day...she won't. As for my situation, the one time I actually talked to her was to "intercept" for lack of a better term her after a test. Now since I'm in college and we can leave after tests, that won't work for you exactly. But I'd say your best bet is to just come up beside her and say "Hi!" in the hall leaving class. I had a similar situation, the only times we were together were in the halls before the prof. showed up and lots of other people were around.
Just whatever you do: MAKE SURE TO TALK TO HER BECAUSE SHE WON'T BE THERE ONE DAY!!!!!
 

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And if she says no, don't sweat it. Be classy, thank her, and consider if there's anyone else you might enjoy taking. Keep in mind that prom is a usually a pretty big event that some people might not want to go to with someone they're not familiar with.

Good luck! :)
 

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*deep breath*
I usually don't get this worked up over trivial stuff like this.
Oh, and zat, I cant "intercept" her after class; shes like a dart: leaves RIGHT as the bell rings
 

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Can't you just ask her/let her know that you'd like to talk to her (in private) after class?

The main thing you need to work out is to stand above peer pressure. It will never be like in school again and it only holds you back. Respect other peoples social positions and there take on this, but once I started to don't care what other people thought about me or my actions, my life made more sense, I felt better and actualy made a lot of friends and actualy gained popularity.

Good luck to you.

P.S.: You realise you posted this question in a board full of geeks, right?!
/me points at Epsilon
 

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once I started to don't care what other people thought about me or my actions, my life made more sense, I felt better and actualy made a lot of friends and actualy gained popularity.
+1

P.S.: You realise you posted this question in a board full of geeks, right?!
Hey, that reminds me, only one month until Geek Pride Day... :rofl:
 

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Go for it!

Kaito,
When you see her, do it. You might be nervous, but just get it over with! If she's a nice person,and you seem like you might have a little connection, she's going to say yes. Best of luck! Let us all know how it goes!
 

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While I do not know a lot of you guys on a personal level, I feel my "status" here is neutral enough to ask this kind of question without to much...um...ridicule. Plus, I've kinda separated myself from my other online friends for a bit...so yeah.

I'm a Junior at my High School, and Prom is coming up soon. There's this girl named Julie that I like, and I want to ask her to prom. But, there are a few problems:
This all sounds actually remarkably similar to my situation back in senior year (but that was for homecoming, not prom, but still similar on a few counts).

Ground rule #1: You can't wait. The longer you wait, the more likely she is to get snatched up by some ape who's been held back twice and can't hold an intelligent conversation but drives a nice car that got given to him by his rich parents who own a hotel chain and yet he somehow is able to get any girl to like him even though he's a dirtbag and will never amount to anything in life and end up dropping out of college and working at a mall hot dog stand and getting her pregnant before she's 20 and ruining the wonderful life she had ahead of her.

Even if she doesn't get snatched up by the aforementioned ape, girls need like a month to prepare for prom. They have to get a dress (fun fact -- the girl can buy her dress for less than what you will spend to rent a tux for the day ), figure out what to do about their hair, etc etc etc. So anyway. Ground rule #1. You can't wait.

On that note, how soon is "soon"? Like, next weekend? Yeah, that's too soon. I also don't want to discourage you, but prom is a really, really, really bad first date. It's formal and fancy and there's pressure for things to be right (among other things, which I'll touch on later with specifics). You really need to go out with her at least once beforehand in order for prom to be fun for you both. I had this problem with homecoming, but that turned out okay (since we went with mutual friends, and homecoming is rather less formal than prom). If you have at least three weeks left before prom, I'd say ask her out to something less formal this weekend so you can see if y'all get along well, and then if so maybe make the prom move either during or after that date. Heck, maybe see if you can sneak in a little Orbiter during the date ;)

But back to ground rule #1: At the absolute minimum, she needs a full weekend's worth of warning to do her shopping and stuff; ideally more like two or three.

With that said, let's get to specifics.
-Shes a grade lower then me (so, she wouldn't be going to prom if I didn't ask her)(and about her and I being in the same math class: I'm one year ahead of where I should be, so that makes her two years ahead of where she should be)
The age itself is not really a problem. Assuming she likes you, she would be absolutely flattered to be going to prom as a sophomore (since it's not something that most sophomores get to do).

What could be a problem is if she doesn't have any friends going to prom too. Are you planning on going with a group of your friends, or just the two of you? If you make prom the first date and it's just the two of you, that's a recipe for disaster. Ideally, you would go with a group of mutual friends, but I don't know if that's a situation that you have available. Also, going with a group of all your friends (who aren't also her friends) can be even worse (for her) than just going alone with her, since she won't know anyone and everyone else will be coupled up, which could make her feel somewhat like a "third wheel" and lonely if you're talking to your friends.
-I only see her during Math class, and a little bit during the next class
In itself, not a problem, but it does suggest to me that you don't really know her that well, that you're just attracted to her due to her looks and her in-class behavior (especially intelligence, I totally understand that being a turn-on)?

This is one reason why having a more informal date beforehand so you two can get comfortable with each other is important. When you're all dressed up for prom and in the formal setting of the event, it may be difficult or awkward if you're not already comfortable with them. Plus, if your high school is anything like mine, the music at prom may thoroughly suck (well, depending on your tastes) and it's difficult to hold a conversation when you have really loud crappy music in the background.

-I don't know if she likes me/has a boyfriend
Yeah, this is kind of a big one. Maybe check Facebook or Myspace to see if she has a boyfriend. As for liking you, that's what the initial date is for. Trust me, it's a lot better to get rejected if you just ask her to dinner or a movie or a kite-flying adventure in the park than if you ask her to prom (or worse, getting rejected or left at prom).

Keep in mind also that the female mind works differently than the male mind. She may think of you as a possible friend, and it's not at all strange to go to prom as friends. Still, you really should do something with her before prom.

-I am never able to catch her alone (and no, I don't mean that in a molester sense)
You're not trying hard enough! If she's taking off as soon as the bell rings, take off sooner! Is she in your next class? Could you talk to her as you're walking to class with her?

Also, if she runs off to join her friends, just ask her "Hey, Julie, can I ask you something?" as class ends. That'll buy you some time.

-The people that sit by us in math class would probably laugh/react in a bad way if I asked her in-front of them
Yeah, asking in front of them would be a bad idea, because then it puts her on the spot. You don't want her to feel pressured to respond in any given way. That's why it would be easier to get in a quick "Hey, I was planning on going to see that new movie 'Death and Destruction 18' this weekend, want to join me?" and then you can get the prom question in later when it's just the two of you.

So, I'm almost SOL. But I don't want to give up. So, from your 3rd person, unbias point of view, what would be the best solution for me? I don't want to accept giving up, but if that's the only real option, then I guess I have no choice.
As I've mentioned before, asking a girl out to prom when you don't know her very well can be kind of a dangerous thing to do. If you're not able to get a less formal date set up beforehand, I would recommend skipping out on this prom and courting her further in the months to come. Prom is a very bad place to discover that you're not really compatible with someone, not least of all because of how expensive it is (for both people).

Also, we just got back from a week of spring break (today), and she was in Costa Rica for the ENTIRE break (Orchestra trip). She didn't come back today (she got back at school at 5 A.M), so she'll be back tomorrow. I'm thinking of using that as a starting point for a conversation.
Hah, another similarity, in my situation the girl was an orchestra person as well. That could be a good conversation starting point though, get her to talk about the trip.

Good luck!
 

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That's a bonus - she might enjoy Orbiter ;)

I read a Dilbert comic strip in which an attractive girl engineer approaches Willey and wants to watch Battlestar Galactica with him. He senses a trap and runs for his life; obviously such girls do not exist in real life.
 

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This reminds me of how I had a friend that was a grade behind from grade 8 till end of highschool. She was the niece of my piano teacher. I wanted sooo badly to ask her out on a date. I would ask her friends out but never had the nerve to ask her. And at times she would date friends of mine. I just could never get up the nerve to ask her. We ended up going our separate ways.
As I got older I realized that all the advice like you have heard in the posts above are so true. It's much better to have asked and heard no than to always have wondered what she would have said. Plus there's always the chance she would say yes.
Oh and BTW I did finally connect with the lady on facebook (now some 35 years later). We exchanged messages and... turns out she always had a crush on me but always waited for me to ask her.
 

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All good advice. Thank you guys so much!
Now I just need to figure out how to ask her to a mini-date...
 

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I asked a girl to a dance in High School and she laughed in my face. It was humiliating and painful, but I regret it far less than the girls I liked, but didn't ask. With her, at least I don't have to wonder if I missed an opportunity for something good.

As they say, Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained.
 

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You're funny!
That'd be one awesome girlfriend if she did. Although I think Orbinauts are few and far between...
We are, when we cross paths its often at extreme relative velocities. But sometimes orbits will sync up and merge from strange perturbations.
 

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I do not have any ideas for you, just follow what others say. I wonder why people ask questions like these on the Internet. Anyways,

I suggest the tactic of "Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"

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No, I don't get many dates. Why do you ask?
I love that advice.:rofl:
 

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Well, let us know how it goes. Always interesting to see how advice like this pans out "IRL" so to speak. :)
 

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Yeah, well, i'll strike up a conversation with her tomorrow and see how things go.

Thanks for all the support!
 
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