Problem Instalation Problem. Specifically, Reboots.

[Frank Harr]

Every time I try to launch Orbiter on my desktop, it forces a reboot. I check the settings and stuff, but I can't launch. If necessary, I'll admit that my 'puter is simply too old. But I don't want to use my laptop as it has its OWN issues.

So, here's all the info that I thought might help:

Windows 2000, service-pack 4

Intel Pentium III

In the error log, it says, "Restart from bugcheck".

and the relevant drive is (I think) N.Vidia Riva TNT2

 

[Cosmic Penguin]

Every time I try to launch Orbiter on my desktop, it forces a reboot. I check the settings and stuff, but I can't launch. If necessary, I'll admit that my 'puter is simply too old. But I don't want to use my laptop as it has its OWN issues.

So, here's all the info that I thought might help:

Windows 2000, service-pack 4

Intel Pentium III

In the error log, it says, "Restart from bugcheck".

and the relevant drive is (I think) N.Vidia Riva TNT2

That's a pretty old system to run Orbiter 2010...... :blink:

I wonder if your CPU/GPU are too old to support the functions in O2010? Try if you can run O2006 P1 and report back. :tiphat:

 

[DaveS]

Every time I try to launch Orbiter on my desktop, it forces a reboot. I check the settings and stuff, but I can't launch. If necessary, I'll admit that my 'puter is simply too old. But I don't want to use my laptop as it has its OWN issues.

So, here's all the info that I thought might help:

Windows 2000, service-pack 4

Intel Pentium III

In the error log, it says, "Restart from bugcheck".

and the relevant drive is (I think) N.Vidia Riva TNT2

I'm sorry to say this but, that's pretty poor machine to run something graphics intensive on in this time and age. I looked up your GPU and more likely than not, it only have 32MB of VRAM (Video RAM) when the minimum specs for Orbiter requires the double, 64MB VRAM.

Also the CPU is most likely a low to mid-end version of the PIII, which peaks out at 1.4 GHz which is just 200 MHz above the minimum CPU requirement of 1.2 GHZ.

Not sure on your actual RAM quantity but the minimum is 512MB.

Could you go Start>Run... and then enter dxdiag and press the Enter key. Then press the Save all information button in the DirectX Diagnostics Tool. Then attach the saved file to your reply. This will enable us to examine your computer specs in greater detail and deliver a more accurate assessment on your machine's capability of running Orbiter.

 

[Frank Harr]

Well, here's some of the information in the DX dialog. It's extensive.

And I don't know why you wanted me to go through "run", but what the hey.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/12/2013, 17:27:48
Machine name: LOUISE
Operating System: Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195) Service Pack 4
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
System Model: OptiPlex GX150
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU 1133MHz, ~1.1GHz
Memory: 254MB RAM
Page File: 165MB used, 451MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINNT
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Previously: Crashed in system information (stage 4) & DirectShow (stage 1)

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. Direct3D functionality not available. You should verify that the driver is a final version from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVidia Riva TNT2
Manufacturer: NVidia
Chip type: NV5
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0028&SUBSYS_006010DE&REV_15
Display Memory: 16.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4.dll
Driver Version: 5.00.2160.0327 (English)
DDI Version: unknown
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/7/1999 11:43:38, 530192 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4.sys
Mini VDD Date: 10/27/1999 10:23:38, 345040 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4368-11CF-2972-1028BAC2C835}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0028
SubSys ID: 0x006010DE
Revision ID: 0x0015
Revision ID: 0x0015
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Not Available
AGP Status: Not Available
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

 

[Frank Harr]

So, any ideas? Is it worth it to get more memory? If I decide to, how much more will I need?

 

[garyw]

I think you'll need a newer PC as those specs are a bit too low for orbiter.

 

[RisingFury]

Don't bother upgrading that machine.

 

[Loru]

Hmm - I had orbiter running at PIII 800Mhz but it had 2gb of RAM and Radeon 9200SE. It had around 20-25FPS.

You can really cheaply get needed components however I'd rather invest in better machine. If you're on budget, I'm pretty sure you can buy pretty decent 4-5 year old PC (dual core) that will handle Orbiter well for less than $100. Just make sure it has PCI express port instead of AGP and dual or quad core processor.

 

[Frank Harr]

Thanks, guys. I'll think it over. I am leaning towards upgrading rather than replacing, but I might change my mind.

 

[Quick_Nick]

Thanks, guys. I'll think it over. I am leaning towards upgrading rather than replacing, but I might change my mind.

Please don't attempt upgrading. ._. Please.