Request Any SLS and Orion MPCV in development?
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gattispilot
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Well or a larger cone like the cargo 130 ton version. The Altair will fit.
Here is the newest 70 ton crew version
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/sls70crew.zip
Here is the newest 70 ton crew version
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/sls70crew.zip
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Since we're squeezing something into a space it shouldn't fit into, it's not time for duck tape, it's time for WD-40
On a serious note, I think a wider fairing would allow an Altair to fit, and it should only take a new mesh and a new config. Also, I'm doubtful you'd be able to send the Altair moonwards with the ICPS, since IIRC SLS block 1 with the ICPS can do something like ~25 tons. Altair, again IIRC, masses quite a bit above that.
gattispilot
Addon Developer
So take the 105 block1 and make the cargo fairing below Orion larger enough for the Altair?
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Here is the 130 ton SLS with the Altair lander on board.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS130CARGOALTAIR.zip
This zip has the 70 ton crew version also. So it will override those files if you have the 70. The Altair lander you will need to get from here:
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=1972"]http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=1972[/ame]
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Here is the 130 ton SLS with the Altair lander on board.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS130CARGOALTAIR.zip
This zip has the 70 ton crew version also. So it will override those files if you have the 70. The Altair lander you will need to get from here:
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=1972"]http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=1972[/ame]
SpaceEagle
GEP Reborn Project Manager
What are the requirements for that things?
, SpaceEagle
, SpaceEagle
gattispilot
Addon Developer
What are the requirements for that things?
Well you need Velcro rockets. The Orion . I am using this one.
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4437"]CEV-Orion[/ame]
On the Orion and Altair I thing something like this.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/105altaircrew.jpg
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4437"][/ame]
To LAunch. Switch to the Core and increase thrust. Then Switch to Tower. press Space to open the Window. Press with the mouse the LAUNCH button. The arms will swing away and the rocket will be dettached.
ISProgram
SketchUp Orbinaut
Well that looks strange. Not that I'm complaining. But wouldn't it be less aerodynamically stressful if you just went with one large fairing.
Like DIRECT.
Like DIRECT.
Astro SG Wise
Future Orion MPCV Pilot
This is my design for a Mars Stack with Orion MPCV. This design is based of of the Constellation NTR booster, the Neeseys module at Pappy's hangar, and the ARV. The entire thing would require 4 SLS Launches: One for the Crew in the Orion, one for the NTR, one for the MOHV module, and one for the MTV (LTV).
Any suggestions?
Steps to Mars:
1) Assemble
2) Crew Launch
3) Leave LEO
4) Detach NTR
5) Correction Burn 1 with Solar Electric Propulsion
6) Correction Burn 2 with SEP
7) Orbit Insertion with SEP
8) Rendezvous with NTR 2
9) Leave Mars
10) Detach NTR 2
11) Orion Undock
12) MOHV SEP Earth Orbit Insertion
It is designed to use the NTR for planetary transfers, but uses SEP for correction burns, orbit insertion, and visiting other objects in mars orbit, such as Phobos, and Deimos. This was my idea. Does anyone think otherwise?
Any suggestions?
Steps to Mars:
1) Assemble
2) Crew Launch
3) Leave LEO
4) Detach NTR
5) Correction Burn 1 with Solar Electric Propulsion
6) Correction Burn 2 with SEP
7) Orbit Insertion with SEP
8) Rendezvous with NTR 2
9) Leave Mars
10) Detach NTR 2
11) Orion Undock
12) MOHV SEP Earth Orbit Insertion
It is designed to use the NTR for planetary transfers, but uses SEP for correction burns, orbit insertion, and visiting other objects in mars orbit, such as Phobos, and Deimos. This was my idea. Does anyone think otherwise?
gattispilot
Addon Developer
Which SLS versions? I could find those other modules. So no lander?
Astro SG Wise
Future Orion MPCV Pilot
For the whole vehicle (MOHV), the SLS Block II cargo, also for the NTR. Block I crew for Orion, if not a smaller version of it. There IS a landrer, the LTV from the Pheonix ESA mission to Mars, and that would be launched by Block IA Cargo and remotely docked to the MOHV. This was the setup that didn't work before for me. Neeseys is smaller than the NTR, so it looks ugly, but the concept itself seems like it would work.
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[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5215"]NTR core propulsion stage[/ame] NTR Stage Booster
http://francophone.dansteph.com/?page=addon&id=1 MTV (LTV) Lander
http://francophone.dansteph.com/?page=addon&id=2 Eranda Module
I can't find the Neeseys module, but it is practically the same as Eranda, so I included it.
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[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5215"]NTR core propulsion stage[/ame] NTR Stage Booster
http://francophone.dansteph.com/?page=addon&id=1 MTV (LTV) Lander
http://francophone.dansteph.com/?page=addon&id=2 Eranda Module
I can't find the Neeseys module, but it is practically the same as Eranda, so I included it.
gattispilot
Addon Developer
OK. I can set 4 different scenarios. I will see where I can put that lander. So block II cargo for the Eranda Module?
Astro SG Wise
Future Orion MPCV Pilot
Oh. I didn't actually think you would do that! It was just an idea on how NASA should make it. I guess you could try it; might be interesting! I would have used Neeseys, but I can't find it. The problem is that the NTR and the Eranda are different sizes, which it would be more preferable if it was the same. It was just an idea.
gattispilot
Addon Developer
Why not? I am into answering needs.
Astro SG Wise
Future Orion MPCV Pilot
Okay. So, the general idea is having the NTR, then the SEP module, then the Habitat. The idea came from Neeseys looking like it has two parts. Just an idea, but you can try it. I will try to post that orbiter log sometime, but it might be late.
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Also because NASA wants to use SEP so much, so I found out how they could actually use it.
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Also because NASA wants to use SEP so much, so I found out how they could actually use it.
Astro SG Wise
Future Orion MPCV Pilot
Says who, or what?
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Anyway, I got to go. I will check this later. Thanks.
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Anyway, I got to go. I will check this later. Thanks.
gattispilot
Addon Developer
Well in my next trial I have a orange texture for those who want to.
So I will make a scenario with the Phoenix lander. Not sure which SLS would be best.
Try this scn:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS70_CARGO_LTV.SCN
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I made a cfg and mesh for the Altair and Orion. But I can't get the Orion and Altair to be attached.
So I will make a scenario with the Phoenix lander. Not sure which SLS would be best.
Try this scn:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS70_CARGO_LTV.SCN
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I made a cfg and mesh for the Altair and Orion. But I can't get the Orion and Altair to be attached.
Code:
BEGIN_SHIPS
slsCORE:Velcro\SLS_CORE
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6745292 28.5191812
HEADING 0.00
ATTACHED 2:0,slstower
AFCMODE 7
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000 2:1.000000
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 1
CENTERTHRUST 0
PADBIAS 1.000000
CAMERA 0.000000 0.000000 90.000000
SLA 3 -2.00 -2.00 0.00
TGT_HEADING 95.000000
; SERIESBURN 0 SLSICPS 0.0000 0.0000 -65.85 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD SLA1 slsorionaltair1 slsorionaltair1 0.00 0.00 -0.1 0.00 0.00 1.00
PAYLOAD SLA2 slsorionaltair2 slsorionaltair2 0.00 0.00 -0.1 0.00 0.00 1.00
PAYLOAD SLA3 slsorionlas1 slsorionlas1 0.00 0.00 88.65 0.00 0.00 1.00
PAYATCH Orion 0 100 0 0 0 -1 0 1 0
PAYATCH ALTAIRLANDER 0 -69 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1
END
Booster1:Velcro\SLSBOOSTER2
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS -3282723.28 1003005.33 5367278.74
RVEL -330.546 93.845 -219.706
AROT 10.59 31.01 -161.30
AFCMODE 7
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 1
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 95.00
PARALLELBURN 1 slsCORE -6.5000 -2.5000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
END
Booster2:Velcro\SLSBOOSTER
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS -3282733.83 1003008.26 5367271.74
RVEL -330.546 93.845 -219.706
AROT 10.59 31.01 -161.30
AFCMODE 7
NAVFREQ 0 0
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 1
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 95.00
PARALLELBURN 1 slsCORE 6.5000 -2.5000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
END
slstower:SLSTOWER
ARM_STATUS 0.9147 0.0000 0.6303 0.9934 0.4060 0.0000 0.0000 0.5045 0.0000 0.47200.1028 0.8142 0.5698
AARM_STATUS 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
POST 1.0000
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6038960 28.6087640
HEADING 180.56
AFCMODE 7
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 0
END
Orion:CEV-Orion\CEV-Orion
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6745292 28.5191812
ATTACHED 0:1,SLS_CORE
HEADING 0.00
AFCMODE 7
PRPLEVEL 0:0.973115
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 466
MODE 1
SOLAR 0
LAS 0
END
ALTAIRLANDER:CEV-E\CEV-E-LM
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS -3140330.92 963014.78 5459115.40
RVEL -338.283 91.948 -208.482
AROT -88.85 15.21 -30.72
ATTACHED 0:2,SLS_CORE
AFCMODE 7
PRPLEVEL 0:0.973115
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 466
MODE 1
GEAR 0
CARGORAMP 1 1.0000
END
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Astro SG Wise
Future Orion MPCV Pilot
I would suggest SLS Cargo block IA Cargo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System#mediaviewer/File:SLS_configurations.png
I thought that by launching this into LEO, it would be able to remotely rendezvous with the MOHV, the same way Progress does. Then, after the entire thing is assembled, the Block I Crew would launch the Orion to meet up with the MOHV, and then they are off to mars. Did you get a chance to look at the NTR and the comparison with Eranda?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System#mediaviewer/File:SLS_configurations.png
I thought that by launching this into LEO, it would be able to remotely rendezvous with the MOHV, the same way Progress does. Then, after the entire thing is assembled, the Block I Crew would launch the Orion to meet up with the MOHV, and then they are off to mars. Did you get a chance to look at the NTR and the comparison with Eranda?
gattispilot
Addon Developer
This Scenario has the Block1a 105 ton CArgo with the phoenix lander on board
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS70_CARGO_LTV.SCN
Where is the MOHV?
"Did you get a chance to look at the NTR and the comparison with Eranda? "
For what? I think both and be loaded in the Block II or even Block 1A
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS70_CARGO_LTV.SCN
Where is the MOHV?
"Did you get a chance to look at the NTR and the comparison with Eranda? "
For what? I think both and be loaded in the Block II or even Block 1A
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