Request Any SLS and Orion MPCV in development?

[gattispilot]

OK. Any help would be welcomed.

Someone had mention SkylabII. I think something like this. I think maybe the framework might have to be another vessel that is attached to her. Then a RMS Arm attached also. Not sure what texture I should use for the radiators?

 

[Astro SG Wise]

Great design! I also think this style of habitation might be quite useful for Mars Mission stacks.

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks but not my design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylab_II#mediaviewer/File:Skylab_II-2.jpg

Looking at this I guess the frame work might be a different vessel? It might all fit in a SLS cargo.

She will be Ummu/ucgo. I guess multiple attachment point for modules?


But any issues with the SLS?

 

[Urwumpe]

You need this Mayfly:
http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2155

Wait a minute ... somebody uses this? h:

 

[PhantomCruiser]

I think you need bigger solar panels dude. From the NASA picture they look to be about the same diameter as the body. But other than that nitipicking, it looks spot on.

Some sort of scaffolding on the back side, it almost looks reminiscent of the structure of the dual keel space station.

 

[gattispilot]

Wait a minute ... somebody uses this? h:

Yes. It is used in Velcro Rockets.


Ok I will scale the panels they were the same size as the the Orion.
I will add the scafolding and a rms arm. Multiple attachments. add rcs thrusters
The article mentions using Flexcraft. But I think on the back side maybe a suit port for her?

 

[Astro SG Wise]

Revisiting the Mars Obital Habitat Vehicle, I designed a Phobos mission version using the Eranda, but this is just a design.



The problem is, they have not been tested. I bet the center of gravity is not correct. I tried the first MOHV and the NTR was not enough to push it out of earth orbit.

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Maybe it is a better idea to replace the NTR stages with the Reusable Nuclear Booster.

[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5339"]Orbital Transit System: Reusable Nuclear Shuttle v0.5(Beta)[/ame]

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If you would like, could you put this on the SLS Block II Cargo, and send it on here? I don't know how big it is, it might not fit.

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(It would need to be up-side down, like the NTR)

 

[gattispilot]

It will not fit. The RNS is about 40 meters long.

But the Skylab with scaffolding will not fit either. So I guess it would need 2 rockets to get her up.

I think because the scaffolding is in the center there is no room for a flexcraft suit docking. So I guess there needs to be a special dock adapter attached to it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/skylab3.jpg

 

[PhantomCruiser]

I wonder if the scaffolding was going to be build "on site"?

 

[gattispilot]

Maybe. But you would need a lot of scaffold vessels and attachments. I think a cheat would be to make a UCGO Crate and put the scaffold vessel in it. Send in with the main skylab body. Then when you get into space. Unpack and attach. You could add a RMS arm in Scenario editor or pack one in a crate also?

 

[PhantomCruiser]

I was thinking an animation (much like a solar array unfolding) but UCGO is pretty elegant a solution (along with an RMS). Looking good so far.

 

[orbitingpluto]

UCGO containers seem a bit too obvious and out of place, but I do have a suggestion that might be more seamless.

Make two meshes of the station, one with the scaffolding folded, and one unfolded. Define a Velcro Rockets stage with the folded scaffolding, and make use of the Become line in the config to point to a config with the unfolded station mesh. After the folded up 'launch' version of skylab2 gets jettisoned from the stage that put it in orbit, it'll become the unfolded station instantly and without fiddling from the user.

Sure, the scaffolding unpacked itself and did so in the blink of an eye, but it's a useful abstraction of an otherwise complicated procedure.

As an example of what I'm talking about, here's the addon I got the idea from: [ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5367"]Saturn-IV Station[/ame]

 

[PhantomCruiser]

That's probably the better option, yes it's instant, but a simple solution.

 

[gattispilot]

What would the folded scaffold look like?

 

[PhantomCruiser]

I'd imagine just a bunch of stacked up tubing, or packaged away on a pallet. I think one of the shuttle missions had the guys build some on an EVA, I seem to remember them getting honorary memberships in the iron workers union.

They may have called it a truss assembly, I can't remember...

 

[gattispilot]

ok. maybe like this.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/skylab2a.jpg
I guess also add a folded rms arm also. That when unfolded is mounted in the correct spot.

On the cfg part. I am a bit confused. So the initial cfg would just be a mesh with folded scaffold. then another to become cfg with a dll and unfolded mesh?

 

[orbitingpluto]

One config is defined as a Velcro stage, with the Become line in the config, and with the folded up scaffolding mesh. The other has the unfolded mesh, but as far as I can tell it doesn't need a dll, just a config for the become line to point to.

 

[gattispilot]

The dll is so the solar panel and radiators can move,.....
redid the ICPS

Latest version. Just change the name in the SLSCORE to SLS/SLSmainRIBBEDorange.dds
http://https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71242599/SLS1.0.zip

 

[Interceptor]

Hey John is this the full package,or do I need to do I need to download earlier packages also?

 

[gattispilot]

It should be everything. I am working on a new EUS.

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I was playing around this.

I added the URMS but I think it doesn't work in 2010p1. So I can make a RMS arm.

But how would modules be attached to the scaffold?

Found this:http://spirit.as.utexas.edu/~fiso/telecon/Griffin_3-27-13/Griffin_3-27-13.pdf

Interesting. It shows the flexcraft being docked in the bottom