Request Dual-Keel Space Station addon (STATION REQUEST)

[Gargantua2024]

Well it is a very old addon tbf. It's a miracle even that it slightly works on O2016 at all

 

[barrygolden]

gattis might add a logistic module to this. and use this hub for your duel keel station.. Might be good to release this like its being built.. In a 1981 NAT GEO had a pic of a manned orbital vehicle for space only. Might use the front of your Molab mounted to a Centaur upper stage. And the OMV would be good to have with this

 

[gattispilot]

On the HL20 the code is there. I might recompile it. But not release due to licensing.

I can add docking ports so that people can dock modules.

Yes basically the same for the dual keel except the modules are in a different configuration.

I think I have the solar tracking down. Just need to add RCS and cameras,..

EVa is possible with my tether add on and an attachment at the airlocks

 

[Pioneer]

On the HL20 the code is there. I might recompile it. But not release due to licensing.

I can add docking ports so that people can dock modules.

Yes basically the same for the dual keel except the modules are in a different configuration.

I think I have the solar tracking down. Just need to add RCS and cameras,..

EVa is possible with my tether add on and an attachment at the airlocks

Is this Sputnik's HL20? On another note, I would like to see Sputnik's add-ons revived in some way...

 

[gattispilot]

Is this Sputnik's HL20? On another note, I would like to see Sputnik's add-ons revived in some way...

Yes. The code is provided. I don't think one could republish it though

 

[gattispilot]

I am adding camera. But I wonder if the orientation needs to be rotated? The default cockpit is +Z forward. But in the top view z is at the top. So the default direction would be looking at the side

 

[gattispilot]

Still not sure about the orientation. Odd these images show only 3 solar panels. Docks are straight,..... More rcs modules?

 

[gattispilot]

Right now Freedom is a mixture of real things and stuff from drawings. If we want a true Freedom. Might need straight docks. And there are many variations.

Might just release it as a mesh and cfg.

 

[Gargantua2024]

Still not sure about the orientation. Odd these images show only 3 solar panels. Docks are straight,..... More rcs modules?

The three solar array version is the 1991 revision where NASA inexplicably removed the fourth one due to cost. It is later dubbed as the "Fred" configuration

 

[gattispilot]

Any thoughts on the orientation? I think if we aiming for a pre ISS then new docks should be made?

 

[DaveS]

Orientation should have the PMAs at the front, with the truss structure at the top. Also note the zig-zag pattern of the thermal radiator panels on the truss. They're not one entire big panel like you have now.

 

[gattispilot]

Yes. I can do zig zag ones.

I guess which way is Z axis? the truss is on top of the hab moules. Keep the Iss angled PMA or built new straight PMAs?

 

[DaveS]

Yes. I can do zig zag ones.

I guess which way is Z axis? the truss is on top of the hab moules. Keep the Iss angled PMA or built new straight PMAs?

Orbiter's Z axis should be aligned so that the truss structure runs left/right (X-axis), the pressurized modules runs forward/aft (Z-axis). If you're unsure, just use the default Project Alpha ISS for reference.

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks. I will I guess the straight PMA's?

 

[DaveS]

Thanks. I will I guess the straight PMA's?

From my research on the subject, you need to essentially just replicate the modern External Airlock/ODS set-up at the space station as the idea was to maneuver the orbiter so that the "Berthing Docking Adapter" would slide into a standard set of active payload latches on the orbiter for the actual capture. So, no actual docking hardware.

 

[gattispilot]

Ok. Then I will use the PMA from ISS_hd

 

[DaveS]

Ok. Then I will use the PMA from ISS_hd

No, that's not it. No PMAs at all but rather the entire External Airlock+ODS lives at the station, not in the payload bay of an orbiter. First image is the concept Pressurized Docking Adapter while the second is a photo of Discovery's actual flown External Airlock+ODS but with the Russian designed and built APAS omitted to more closely represent what the SSF PDA would have looked like if it had been built. This would have remained at the station after the orbiter left.

 

[gattispilot]

Oh. I can built the SSF_PDA. Not sure what the end where the shuttle would dock would look like

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19920015843/downloads/19920015843.pdf

Why did the design for Space Shuttle docking change?

While browsing concepts of Space Station Freedom and other '80s NASA concepts (I love concept art), I noticed that there are some interesting differences in how the Shuttle was intended to dock wit...

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So it has trunnions. I wonder where it would dock? At that part that is sticking out?

So it looks like the ODS end attached to the station?

 

[DaveS]

Oh. I can built the SSF_PDA. Not sure what the end where the shuttle would dock would look like

The PDA is what would "dock" to the orbiter. But instead of using traditional docking systems, it would have used the orbiter's own active payload retention latches. The retention latch is the white object mounted on the bridge rail panel, in the photo it is in the "latched" configuration. The PDA would slide into the payload bay with the trunnion pins on the rectangular truss cradle fitting into the latches in the released configuration.

 

[gattispilot]

Oh So at the end is this structure. And some where would be a tunnel?