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Did they wrong you in the future?
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I was not paid. Am I wrong to refuse work?
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That explains it then ! :thumbup:
Yeah. (shakes head) Some people are klutzes; some are prone to brainf###ing. I belong to the latter group. Don't know if it's Edward-related or just momentary trips into space. Fortunately any BF's I do are usually just amusing and cause me to race around like crazy while Brad laughs his head off. For instance my job includes keeping the press lubricated and we'd run out of 220-weight oil. The main tank's fill gauge was bottomed out, the tank boomed to a kick, no oil was coming out; it was clearly empty. Until someone pointed out the gauge was broken and someone had jury-rigged a simple plastic line as a replacement...and it was right in front of my nose. There was almost a quarter tank left. So we traced lines until we found a closed valve.
:facepalm: <---- My personal most useful emoticon.
So now I have to put up with Brad saying things like "Hey Dave! Is the tank empty yet? Haaaaaa!!!"
"Ahhh shaddap."
:facepalm: <---- My personal most useful emoticon.
So now I have to put up with Brad saying things like "Hey Dave! Is the tank empty yet? Haaaaaa!!!"
"Ahhh shaddap."
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paddy2
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Really really sorry I only had page one of posts displayed.
Having read BOTH pages I really do see your point about when you screw up they never forget, when they screw up its nothing to worry about !!!!!!
In this day and age they can put money into an account in seconds, even if its put in 500 now ( or some amount) and adjust the rest later. Wonder if anyone "above" payroll know of the event???
Having read BOTH pages I really do see your point about when you screw up they never forget, when they screw up its nothing to worry about !!!!!!
In this day and age they can put money into an account in seconds, even if its put in 500 now ( or some amount) and adjust the rest later. Wonder if anyone "above" payroll know of the event???
Oh; they knew 10 seconds after we started opening our pay stubs. No; it was just a mistake and to be fair they did fix it; but they were slow about it and tried to CYA. They didn't correct it until we acted. In my case the main problem was their trying to single me out to work OT against the union's decision. I don't blame the sups for that, I know what's landing on them from above but they should have known what the response would be. Anyhoo; OT beckons, not going to turn down free money. Must go. 
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Well, that was quick. Guess OT was not to be.
Shift starts at 7:30; we were assembled by 6:50. Brad unclutched the Press (the venerable, quirky and unpredictable but extremely fast and versatile Harris 966; the biggest non-newspaper press in Alberta) and ran her up to speed; warming up her rollers and ink systems. After half an hour he slowed her down so we could web up - guiding the web of paper through the press. I clutched her back in (engaging the peripheral systems to the main printing units) and we began our press run. It lasted 10 minutes.
After aligning and proofing the copy (and jumping in to help the flyboys who refuse to listen to my advice about not letting unaligned books into their stackers) I walked the three hundred feet back to my Rollstations. Halfway there I looked up and gasped - smoke was pouring out from the #3 printing unit - black smoke.
I signalled a shutdown fast. Brad leaped to the console but it takes almost a minute to slow a monster of this size down.
End result: a blown bearing on the upper Magenta unit's #3 ink form, with attendant heat and fire damage. Not a big problem; with two hundred rollers in that press we are used to dealing with blown bearings. Friction-induced fire is nothing new to any printer. But the stress took out the inker clutch and the unit's shear pin as well. Don't ask me how; it shouldn't have but I've long since stopped trying to predict the trouble this bloody machine can create for us Operators. The 966 is a beast unto her own; when she breaks down she does so with maximum inconvenience to her crews. With Maintenance gone for the night it'll take at least ten hours to repair. It'd take far less if we had a millwright on shift; even more less if we had a replacement ready to go - it could all be fixed in 3 hours; our Millwrights and electricians are superb. But we didn't - so we're down. Congrats; office staff - see what saving money on the little things does?
So we left. We gummed the plates and shut the press down; Brad drove me home. The day-shift crew will try again in the morning.
Geez - just once in my career I'd love to work for a management that didn't think 'counting paperclips' was good fiscal management.
Well...at least I have more time to work on my G42 tute.
---------- Post added at 03:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 AM ----------
Well, that was quick. Guess OT was not to be.
Shift starts at 7:30; we were assembled by 6:50. Brad unclutched the Press (the venerable, quirky and unpredictable but extremely fast and versatile Harris 966; the biggest non-newspaper press in Alberta) and ran her up to speed; warming up her rollers and ink systems. After half an hour he slowed her down so we could web up - guiding the web of paper through the press. I clutched her back in (engaging the peripheral systems to the main printing units) and we began our press run. It lasted 10 minutes.
After aligning and proofing the copy (and jumping in to help the flyboys who refuse to listen to my advice about not letting unaligned books into their stackers) I walked the three hundred feet back to my Rollstations. Halfway there I looked up and gasped - smoke was pouring out from the #3 printing unit - black smoke.
I signalled a shutdown fast. Brad leaped to the console but it takes almost a minute to slow a monster of this size down.
End result: a blown bearing on the upper Magenta unit's #3 ink form, with attendant heat and fire damage. Not a big problem; with two hundred rollers in that press we are used to dealing with blown bearings. Friction-induced fire is nothing new to any printer. But the stress took out the inker clutch and the unit's shear pin as well. Don't ask me how; it shouldn't have but I've long since stopped trying to predict the trouble this bloody machine can create for us Operators. The 966 is a beast unto her own; when she breaks down she does so with maximum inconvenience to her crews. With Maintenance gone for the night it'll take at least ten hours to repair. It'd take far less if we had a millwright on shift; even more less if we had a replacement ready to go - it could all be fixed in 3 hours; our Millwrights and electricians are superb. But we didn't - so we're down. Congrats; office staff - see what saving money on the little things does?
So we left. We gummed the plates and shut the press down; Brad drove me home. The day-shift crew will try again in the morning.
Geez - just once in my career I'd love to work for a management that didn't think 'counting paperclips' was good fiscal management.
Well...at least I have more time to work on my G42 tute.
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What's life without a little excitement, hey?
I remember working on a Planer/Sander machine in my heyday for a woodworking factory. Imagine rotating square blades on a cutting drum in your spare time (when each drum has approximately 160 blades).
Furthermore, imagine pulling sandpaper out of obscure spots you hadn't thought sandpaper could go when the !(&*% dayshift neglects to tell you the 120 grit paper roll was needing to be replaced six hours ago . . . and the offending roll of paper decides to detatch itself whilst running at 1,000 RPM.
I remember working on a Planer/Sander machine in my heyday for a woodworking factory. Imagine rotating square blades on a cutting drum in your spare time (when each drum has approximately 160 blades).
Furthermore, imagine pulling sandpaper out of obscure spots you hadn't thought sandpaper could go when the !(&*% dayshift neglects to tell you the 120 grit paper roll was needing to be replaced six hours ago . . . and the offending roll of paper decides to detatch itself whilst running at 1,000 RPM.
(chuckle) I have no idea; I've never worked your industry. But I can well imagine the 'excitement' from your description, you're a good writer. We machine operators often think of mechanical issues, guards and safety devices as our most dangerous threats - does any textbook out there include 'the crew just before you'?
Just for interest and for no point germane to the topic; let me show you my environment. I snuck a digital cam into the plant five years ago; less than a week after I'd been placed on Brad's crew. As a result; my web-press terminology isn't exact but even so you see my total comfort within the printing environment. At the time I was still ranked as a colour specialist; an advisory position above the 2nd Pressmen (or 'Colourmen') but below the First - Brad, Lead Hand of the crew. A month after I recorded this the Union greived my position and I was relegated to Rolltender status - one above entry-level; which I occupy to this day. (The Union and I have a less than cordial relationship as a result.)
But be that as it may; this is the mighty Harris 966 in all her glory - running fast and smooth; churning out books at a thousand copies per hour. At 324 feet long the 966 is the largest non-newspaper web press in Alberta; and possibly in all Canada. I am exceptionally fond of this big monster; for all her faults she is a hard-working and flexible piece of machinery. She is a delight to work on - a heartbreaking, skull-busting and exasperating delight, but a delight nonetheless. Let me take you on a tour of this great machine. On the way you will meet Brad - my close friend and compatriot in the company - one of the very few operators I truly admire. He is a First Pressman of the first water; extremely smart and creative; intuitive and his understanding of printing machinery is far greater than any other man I've ever met. Anyway; here's the video of the press:
Just for interest and for no point germane to the topic; let me show you my environment. I snuck a digital cam into the plant five years ago; less than a week after I'd been placed on Brad's crew. As a result; my web-press terminology isn't exact but even so you see my total comfort within the printing environment. At the time I was still ranked as a colour specialist; an advisory position above the 2nd Pressmen (or 'Colourmen') but below the First - Brad, Lead Hand of the crew. A month after I recorded this the Union greived my position and I was relegated to Rolltender status - one above entry-level; which I occupy to this day. (The Union and I have a less than cordial relationship as a result.)
But be that as it may; this is the mighty Harris 966 in all her glory - running fast and smooth; churning out books at a thousand copies per hour. At 324 feet long the 966 is the largest non-newspaper web press in Alberta; and possibly in all Canada. I am exceptionally fond of this big monster; for all her faults she is a hard-working and flexible piece of machinery. She is a delight to work on - a heartbreaking, skull-busting and exasperating delight, but a delight nonetheless. Let me take you on a tour of this great machine. On the way you will meet Brad - my close friend and compatriot in the company - one of the very few operators I truly admire. He is a First Pressman of the first water; extremely smart and creative; intuitive and his understanding of printing machinery is far greater than any other man I've ever met. Anyway; here's the video of the press:
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Mantis
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I don't know what province you are located in, but I would suggest contacting the ministry of labour in your province and filing a complaint. I know from experience that here in Ontario, they are very quick to investigate these things and take concrete action in short order. How is everyone else handling it?
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... expect and prepare for the worst...
FWIW, I have been one to be very strict in my business dealings. After all, business is business. I pride myself in providing a product or service exactly how and when I have stated it would be and go out of my way rapidly to correct any mistake I make. I in turn expect no less from those I deal with. Expect and actually demand such a reciprocal treatment.
But as I have aged (sliding toward 60) I am increasingly finding that there is a balance in the reciprocal part of that business arrangement. Allowing oneself to build up feelings of anger may be unhealthy and has a good chance that being too quick to say or do something in response to others not living up to the letter of an agreement can be counterproductive.
When it comes to living paycheck to paycheck. I have done that myself but found it stressful. I always knew that unforeseen problems do come up whether it's mechanical, medical or accidental. Having a nest egg to buffer these issues will in the long run make for huge savings of time money and hassle. When I earned minimum wage I tried to spend just 90% of my money. As earnings became twice minimum wage I spent just half of what I earned. Now at 58 I have about a 30 year buffer finally built up. But for many of my friends, my nest egg would last them just 1 to 5 years because of their excessive spending habits.
FWIW, I have been one to be very strict in my business dealings. After all, business is business. I pride myself in providing a product or service exactly how and when I have stated it would be and go out of my way rapidly to correct any mistake I make. I in turn expect no less from those I deal with. Expect and actually demand such a reciprocal treatment.
But as I have aged (sliding toward 60) I am increasingly finding that there is a balance in the reciprocal part of that business arrangement. Allowing oneself to build up feelings of anger may be unhealthy and has a good chance that being too quick to say or do something in response to others not living up to the letter of an agreement can be counterproductive.
When it comes to living paycheck to paycheck. I have done that myself but found it stressful. I always knew that unforeseen problems do come up whether it's mechanical, medical or accidental. Having a nest egg to buffer these issues will in the long run make for huge savings of time money and hassle. When I earned minimum wage I tried to spend just 90% of my money. As earnings became twice minimum wage I spent just half of what I earned. Now at 58 I have about a 30 year buffer finally built up. But for many of my friends, my nest egg would last them just 1 to 5 years because of their excessive spending habits.
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