Updates SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 with Cassiope, POPACS (x6), CUSat 1&2, September 29, 2013

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That'll be cutting it close - firing on Saturday, LRR, launch on Sunday. I think it'll slip to Monday or Tuesday.

---------- Post added 09-14-13 at 02:20 AM ---------- Previous post was 09-13-13 at 05:02 PM ----------

Delay! Launch date TBD.
 
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AmericaSpace: "Media Relations Hit Snag With Cassiope Launch"
Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) has had its fair share of issues with the media. With the upcoming launch of the Cassiope mission, a new wrinkle has emerged: Media are currently not permitted to attend the liftoff of this historic flight as guests of SpaceX. Cassiope will be the first non-NASA flight of SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket (excluding the inaugural test flight of the launch vehicle). Liftoff is currently scheduled to take place Sept. 5 from Vandenberg Air Force Base’s (VAFB) Space Launch Complex 4 in California.

SpaceX initially stated the following regarding this decision: “We will likely not host media at this launch, per our customer’s wishes. Sorry about that!”

In an effort to understand why SpaceX access to the launch of the Cassiope communications satellite was more restrictive than those carried out on the behalf of the Department of Defense by other launch service providers, AmericaSpace reached out to MacDonald Dettwiller & Associates Inc. (MDA). Although MDA did not respond, SpaceX’s Christina Ra did contact AmericaSpace to clarify the situation.

According to Ra, this event is an anomaly, one which stems from both the wishes of the customer and SpaceX’s situation at Vandenberg. According to Ra, SpaceX’s facilities at VAFB are currently less-developed than those at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. However, as VAFB is an Air Force installation, the infrastructure to handle the media is established. Indeed, Ra stated later that the Air Force’s Public Affairs Office at Vandenberg would host media per their protocol. Given this is a pivotal launch for SpaceX, it is odd that the Air Force, an entity that has no interest in this particular mission, will apparently be providing a greater level of media access than the two companies directly involved.

Reports have come in that SpaceX will not be allowing them to set up remote cameras at SLC-4, but that VAFB public affairs will escort them to set up remote cameras outside of SLC-4.
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So no live broadcast of the launch? Looks serious that SpaceX is very afraid for a failure in the mission, and that means that there are totally unsure about there new Falcon 9 1.1 with the new Merlin engines and maybe also about the fairing system.

Strangely, if you got trust in you stuff then you not need to hide it from the rest of the world.

Does SpaceX not trust there own stuff?
 

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So no live broadcast of the launch? Looks serious that SpaceX is very afraid for a failure in the mission, and that means that there are totally unsure about there new Falcon 9 1.1 with the new Merlin engines and maybe also about the fairing system.

Strangely, if you got trust in you stuff then you not need to hide it from the rest of the world.

Does SpaceX not trust there own stuff?

Apparently the article above is incorrect.....look at the CSA press release a few posts above - there WILL be a live broadcast.

Not sure about the remote cameras problem though.....although I remember something similar on earlier launches from the Cape.
 

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Yea, CSA posted on their website there would be live coverage of the launch.

Second hot fire planned for today, may get a launch date if all goes well.
 

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Yea, CSA posted on their website there would be live coverage of the launch.

Second hot fire planned for today, may get a launch date if all goes well.

But why then AmericaSpace post this incorrect news? Just for hit the headlines?
 

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I've been following the SpaceX facebook page, this issue had been brought up and explained about a week ago.

Maybe AmericaSpace didn't get an invite? Got a bad spot on the viewing platform? Who knows...
 

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Another week delay. Firing scheduled for next Wednesday, launch next weekend.
 

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Another week delay. Firing scheduled for next Wednesday, launch next weekend.

Already passed over the weekend:

Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk
Will do another static fire of rocket to make sure all is good & AF needs to test ICBMs, so probable launch Sept 29/30.

That should be plenty of time to iron out any troubles. Interestingly I had bet on this launch ending up in early-mid October so it's still faster than my expectations! :p
 

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In the meantime, we've got more photos of the rocket on the launch pad:

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Should be helpful for Kyle to finish his model of the launch pad at VAFB (that is if he's still working on the project). ;)
 

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I believe Glider was making a new F9 v1.1 and pad, so if you want a fully functional pad (vs just a basic mesh) and vehicle you might want to forward those pictures to him. I just don't have the time right now with a 15 credit hour load at college, nor do I have the money to buy a decent modeler instead of a free program like Google Sketchup and anim8or.

Anyone who may have the time to do that is completely free to use my Vandenberg AFB texture.
 
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Huh aren't all those delays costing a lot of money ? Extending a launch campaign like that isn't free, and during that time you are not launching commercial payloads to orbit...
 

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Huh aren't all those delays costing a lot of money ? Extending a launch campaign like that isn't free, and during that time you are not launching commercial payloads to orbit...

Usually, they are cheaper than a new rocket.
 

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Huh aren't all those delays costing a lot of money ? Extending a launch campaign like that isn't free, and during that time you are not launching commercial payloads to orbit...

Not half as expensive as the backlash would be if it blew up.

The delay to the 29th is due to a range conflict, it's been fairly well established for the last few weeks I believe that a delay beyond the 15th would result in a launch at the end of the month. Just bad luck for SpaceX.

Let's all remember, this is a new rocket at a new pad with a new launch team. The first Falcon 9 delays were far worse than this.
 

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Huh aren't all those delays costing a lot of money ? Extending a launch campaign like that isn't free, and during that time you are not launching commercial payloads to orbit...

I think if you have found issues with your rocket during a two-second-hotfire while the engines have to perform over 80 times that long and they're a new type, never flewn to space before...
It's surely not money that's the primary concern there. Especially not on a rocket that should carry people into space in just a few years.

Although their next launch is scheduled for October, the SES-8 satellite. And their contract says that they need a successful maiden launch of the 1.1 with the Merlin 1D and the payload fairing.
So they'll surely try to get launch ASAP but issue-free is important, too.
 

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Usually, they are cheaper than a new rocket.

Sure, I completely agree with that. Still, delays add cost.
 

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Yes, but the following saying applies not only to aviation: "if you think safety is expensive, try an accident". :)
 

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nor do I have the money to buy a decent modeler instead of a free program like Google Sketchup and anim8or.

Blender is pretty decent, it does not have a lot of the fancy tools that high-end payware software packages do, but it is by no means ersatz. Turning out quality work is mostly a matter of skill.
 

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AC3D is only $80.00 US. Very easy to use.
 
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