Logitec X3D Pro for me (i had to check my joystick a couple of times to work that one out), but im thiking of upgrading, and using this one for some ancillary controls, like spoilers, progressive brakes (i hate having to slam on hard) and possibly flaps. perhaps if i had a dual throttle HOTAS i could set one to be the spoiler? if not, id just use the throttle on the X3D