SSU Development Thread (2.0 to 3.0)

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Probably, or otherwise they would have to depressurize the whole tunnel for an EVA.
EDIT: no wait, that I don't know. Probably there was a hatch between the TAA and the tunnel.

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Regardless of what happens when they are docked, there must always be a way to go EVA from the shuttle.
There's the middeck hatch (A), top airlock (B), aft airlock (C), FWD TAA (D), top TAA (E), aft TAA (F), SpaceHAB (G).

For missions with the internal airlock the order is:
Middeck hatch (A), FWD TAA (B), top TAA (C), aft TAA (D), SpaceHAB (E).
 
No, not automatically.

The tunnel was already designed for earlier Spacelab missions, when the Shuttle was also routinely flying with the internal airlock.

There must be a way out of the tunnel/airlock system, and it's not using the ODS hatch. That's why STS 91 and 118 carried the TAA.
 
There must be a way out of the tunnel/airlock system, and it's not using the ODS hatch. That's why STS 91 and 118 carried the TAA.
Not just those missions. Any mission which had something obstructing the EVA hatch required the TAA. So for the ISS missions here's the list:

  • STS-88 (special case, TAA required to put the External Airlock/ODS in the correct position, for N1/FGB dockings as the RMS doesn't reach the standard Bay 2 location)
  • STS-96
  • STS-101
  • STS-106
  • STS-102
  • STS-116
  • STS-118
 
Not just those missions. Any mission which had something obstructing the EVA hatch required the TAA. So for the ISS missions here's the list:

  • STS-88 (special case, TAA required to put the External Airlock/ODS in the correct position, for N1/FGB dockings as the RMS doesn't reach the standard Bay 2 location)
  • STS-96
  • STS-101
  • STS-106
  • STS-102
  • STS-116
  • STS-118

My point exactly.
 
Donamy: Could you make the ODS base black instead of grey? The grey APAS base only exists on the PMAs as the greying is caused by the exposure to the UV-radiation emitted by the sun. It has a bleaching effect on certain fabrics. The ODS isn't exposed to the radiation long enough for this bleaching effect to happen.

I've seen pictures of both grey and black, especially the Atlantis exhibit. Two different ODS's pehaps. I agree with the fading argument. I've seen some pictures, where the pma insulation looks alost white in contrast with the ODS.
 
I've seen pictures of both grey and black, especially the Atlantis exhibit. Two different ODS's pehaps. I agree with the fading argument. I've seen some pictures, where the pma insulation looks alost white in contrast with the ODS.
The RMS and External Airlock/ODS on the Space Shuttle Atlantis Exhibit are mockups. NASA kept the External Airlocks/ODS units from all 3 vehicles for possible later uses. If you take a close look, you'll notice alot of of differences between the mockups and the actual flight-articles.
For example, the External Airlock/ODS mockup used on Atlantis seems to be a solid one-piece cylindrical design while the real units are separate and the top section of the airlock is of a conical shape.

Only the OBSS and the Ku band DAs are the real flight articles.

Compare these photos of the mockup with photos of the real flight articles:

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Wow.... that looks bad. In the last image it's very noticeable that the ring isn't aligned. :facepalm:
 
Wow.... that looks bad. In the last image it's very noticeable that the ring isn't aligned. :facepalm:
Yes, I don't know who made the mockup. I just hope it wasn't Guard-Lee as they did a great job on Explorer.
 
Yes, I don't know who made the mockup. I just hope it wasn't Guard-Lee as they did a great job on Explorer.

That's another good story.... :facepalm:
EDIT: oh wait, it was Pathfinder that got the good treatment. :S
 
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So for STS-118, did they remove they not install the hatch between the ODS airlock and the TAA ?
 
So for STS-118, did they remove they not install the hatch between the ODS airlock and the TAA ?
The hatches are always installed no matter what. If you remember, Endeavour had some problems passing her leak checks prior to the start of the launch countdown. In an effort to isolate where the leak was (SpaceHAB, airlock, orbiter crew module) they closed all the hatches and eventually isolated it to Positive Pressure Relief Valve-B (PPRV-B). They R&Red it with the unit donated by Atlantis as they would have time to fix the faulty unit from Endeavour and install it into Atlantis as she wasn't going to fly until December'07 (she had just returned from EDW concluding STS-117).
 
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So for STS-118, how many hatches total ?
 
Why don't you answer the question. That post is confusing.

By what I read, you are saying that STS-118 hat 7 hatches, which I highly doubt.
Why do you doubt it? In the event of a leak, you must be able to seal off the affected module.
 
I the event of a leak, you get back to the Mid-deck as quickly as possible.
 
I the event of a leak, you get back to the Mid-deck as quickly as possible.
Yes but you also need to close off the leaking module so that you lose all your atmosphere before you can de-orbit and land. And getting into the LES/ACES is not a fast procedure. This is idea that was implemented into the freon coolant loops, that the leaking section can be isolated and not threaten the rest of the mission.
 
Show me a picture where the TAA has three hatches. I have plenty without.
 
I have reservations about a forward TAA hatch, as there's always another hatch immediatly forward of it.
 
All those hatches opening in, where do the people go ? :rofl:
 
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