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Getting an instance on Amazon or another suitable provider is usually way cheaper, unless you have enough old hardware lying around...

Here's the price list for Amazon EC2 instances, in case you're unaware of the service: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/

Exactly that. There are also regional hosters around, in case Amazon is a bit too american.
 

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Huh?
How does THAT work?

and calculating what is cheaper - building my own hardware or renting a server for some months?
Curiously enough, i was just looking around for the best bang for buck in computer hardware.

Turns out there are plenty of second-hand 2012-2013 Ivy Bridge CPUs and motherboards for them. You can get a full 1.5 GFLOPs system for $50-$100, running at 10-20W each, which is quite a bit cheaper than bigger, more powerful boards and CPUs.
 

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Out of curiousity, why are you aiming for the 6500, when the 6600K is only 'slightly' more expensive, has a higher clock speed, and you can OC it to your hearts content?

I was going to get an i5-4460 at first because it was the cheapest i5 listed on PCPartPicker, but I saw recommendations for i5-6500 (because it was the newer and better counterpart, "slightly more expensive" than the 4460). And as you've shown, I'd have to get a more expensive motherboard in order to overclock, which I am hesitant to do anyway (for now).

Huh?
How does THAT work?
Ebay has various sellers/distributors, not just auctions; in this case one was selling copies of Windows 7 for 47 USD (I got one of the last few copies).
 
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Curiously enough, i was just looking around for the best bang for buck in computer hardware.

Turns out there are plenty of second-hand 2012-2013 Ivy Bridge CPUs and motherboards for them. You can get a full 1.5 GFLOPs system for $50-$100, running at 10-20W each, which is quite a bit cheaper than bigger, more powerful boards and CPUs.

Yeah, but then, I don't need computation power. What I want to set up is a continuous delivery system for doing some experiments at home, that I can't realize at work for the foreseeable future.

Before I let bean counters get into the way for progress, I go rogue.

I have no special secrecy demands there, so hosting it somewhere would be no serious deal. But having the box at home would allow some more flexibility and I could also shut it down when I am at work.

I would just need the case to be significantly smaller than a midi tower case, otherwise the computer department at home goes through an age of inflation.
 

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one was selling copies of Windows 7 for 47 USD (I got one of the last few copies).
So you buy a serial number off ebay rather than directly from Microsoft?
I don't quite get it.

Or did MS stop selling Win 7 completely by now?

You can get a full 1.5 GFLOPs system for $50-$100, running at 10-20W each
More precisely, it's ~1.9 GFLOPs, running at 18W full power.

The most curious part is that a Celeron G1610 at 2.6GHz does 1.8 GFLOPs while a Pentium G2030 at 3.0GHz does 1.95 GFLOPs, but the first cost 2.6 times less.
That is, for the same core count there is little difference between the cheapest and the priciest CPUs as far as pure GFLOPs are concerned.

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Yeah, but then, I don't need computation power. What I want to set up is a continuous delivery system for doing some experiments at home, that I can't realize at work for the foreseeable future.
Ah.
Well, same sentiment about cheap second hand parts apply, and they do include small mini-ITX/DTX boards.

Then it's a question of whether hosting would cost more than $50 or so for the duration you'll need it for.
 

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So you buy a serial number off ebay rather than directly from Microsoft?
I don't quite get it.

Or did MS stop selling Win 7 completely by now?

My purchase came with a disc and an activation key code. You don't buy the latest versions of Windows directly from Microsoft, you get them from a third-party distributor like an electronics store (real life or online).

On PCPartPicker.com, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit is listed as only being available on OutletPC for 200 USD while Windows 10 and 8.1 are 85 USD. So most of the "big-name" online hardware and software distributors aren't selling 7 anymore except for one with an exorbitant price, at least in the US.
 
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Ah.
Well, same sentiment about cheap second hand parts apply, and they do include small mini-ITX/DTX boards.

Then it's a question of whether hosting would cost more than $50 or so for the duration you'll need it for.

Exactly. Also I am also asking at the local computer stores if any leasing hardware is returning to them. Those are 2+ years old and often pretty worn out outside, but pretty cheap for the hardware. If you need a notebook for university and can't afford much as student, such offers are often unbeatable.
 

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Pardon?



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Planes at a reasonable size:

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From front to back:

Flugbereitschaft, German air force, plane assigned to chancellor Angela Merkel (Bombadier Global)
ETEC, French air force, plane assigned to president Hollande (Dassault 7X)
Edforce One
 

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A Blue Angels plane crashed today. No word on injuries. Edit: Unfortunately, the pilot did not survive.

Separately, a Thunderbirds plane crashed at a flyover of the Air Force Academy graduation where Obama was speaking. The pilot ejected uninjured and shook the President's hand. The plane doesn't even look too bad either.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/02/thunderbird-crash-colorado-springs/

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You might have us beat in that instance.

Incidentally, the video circulating lately of Texas flooding is from New Braunfels, a town known for its German heritage.
https://weather.com/news/weather/video/wall-of-water-washes-jeep-down-river

And a number of soldiers have died or are missing at Fort Hood today after their LMTV was swept away at a creek-crossing bridge.
 
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Incidentally, the video circulating lately of Texas flooding is from New Braunfels, a town known for its German heritage.

CONSPRIACY! The guys controlling the wheather want to wipe out the germans!
 

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Watts Bar Unit 2 is heat soaking at 1800 RPM. AFAIK no plans to sync to the grid to be full speed-no load, but she's rolling along nicely. Still loads of testing to be done.
 

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Watts Bar Unit 2 is heat soaking at 1800 RPM. AFAIK no plans to sync to the grid to be full speed-no load, but she's rolling along nicely. Still loads of testing to be done.

Back when I first joined the Orbiter community I never thought I'd get regular updates on a nuclear power plant in Tennessee. Weird how things are connected when you think about it.
 

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My PC is slowly turning into audio production system.

3 separate audio cards already in there: mobo integrated Realtek (mic hooked up for Teamspeak/Skype), Maya44 PCI (for routing 2 physical stereo effect loops, reamping and digital I/O) & Focusrite Scarlet Solo for guitar and condenser mic input, and general output).

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And I'm running out of screen space.
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How's Reaper like? I tried it but never could get it right, maybe it's my 5+ years using FL that biased me, but I nver could use Reaper out of the limited time I tried it (but Ableton too, to be fair). I also understand our uses are a bit different: yours is geared towards live perf, while I'm using it as a sequencer for "offline" production.
 

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I'm fairly new to Reaper but I like it so far. It's mostly aimed at recording not live performance, but it acts well as VST host and you can jam with it. I love snapping tools. I found it very easy to work with but I have to try Ableton I got with my interface.
 

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I'm fairly new to Reaper but I like it so far. It's mostly aimed at recording not live performance, but it acts well as VST host and you can jam with it. I love snapping tools. I found it very easy to work with but I have to try Ableton I got with my interface.

Ah I see. But even for recording (which I did almost none of, expect some nifty inter-application recording, especially getting MIDI data out to Chrome and sound back into FL to record web synthesizers through Jack Audio) I find FL Studio to be so simple, literally arm and record, in 3 clicks.

My uncle's band uses Reaper for recording their lives, and that's where I got to play with it quickly, but they didn't have huge amounts of VSTs to play with.
 
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