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Yes tsunami alert in the Pacific Ocean, a 3 meters-high wave was expected.
 

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Anything you can hear in Alaska and New Zealand is a big event.
 

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Anything you can hear in Alaska and New Zealand is a big event.

There is also a nice animation somewhere that shows the passage of the shockwave over Germany, Austria and Switzerland by using the standard visualization for the surface pressure on a private weather service.
 

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Apparently the shockwave of the Tonga volcano has been detected by a barometer at a nearby meteorological center:
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Yep. As of today, initial shockwave got recorded as it passed the second time around the globe, as well as the one going 'the other way'. Saw some estimates of 150-200 megatons equivalent, but I'm not sure on what they're relying to get that number. Capital city is/was like 40 miles away from that. Not sure how bad the shockwave would have been at that distance, even ignoring the tsunami.
 

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Yep. As of today, initial shockwave got recorded as it passed the second time around the globe, as well as the one going 'the other way'. Saw some estimates of 150-200 megatons equivalent, but I'm not sure on what they're relying to get that number. Capital city is/was like 40 miles away from that. Not sure how bad the shockwave would have been at that distance, even ignoring the tsunami.

Right now it looks like a "weak Tsunami" caused most of the damage in the capital, but some of the smaller islands are still cut off from the rest of the world, because one major internet cable failed during the eruption. Lots of ash as well.
 

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Googled for "BioLaser", looking for sci-fy-concepts of building a laser out of organic matter (think Vorlon-style far-future biowank). Instead, found lots and lots of pages related to plastic surgery. Oh well...
 

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Right now it looks like a "weak Tsunami" caused most of the damage in the capital, but some of the smaller islands are still cut off from the rest of the world, because one major internet cable failed during the eruption. Lots of ash as well.
The capital has a reef between it and the volcano hence the smaller wave. There are now reports of bigger waves on outer islands that are more concerning.

We sent a few planes for recon, not sure how close they could get (P-8 and P-3). It will be a couple of days until RAN and RNZN can get ships in close.
 

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The capital has a reef between it and the volcano hence the smaller wave. There are now reports of bigger waves on outer islands that are more concerning.

We sent a few planes for recon, not sure how close they could get (P-8 and P-3). It will be a couple of days until RAN and RNZN can get ships in close.

The EU also already used their Copernicus system to get radar images of the volcanic island where the eruption took place. It is gone, Krakatoa style.

And BTW - 1.2 - 1.8 m wave is huge for a volcanic tsunami. Especially if the place has no tsunami protection at all and the wave arrives without warning.
 

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Here we go, sticking our nose into a conflict that doesn't directly concern us again.

"The first batch of light anti-armour weapons was sent on Monday, although the defence secretary did not specify the type."
Anyone know what that might be.?
 

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Here we go, sticking our nose into a conflict that doesn't directly concern us again.

"The first batch of light anti-armour weapons was sent on Monday, although the defence secretary did not specify the type."
Anyone know what that might be.?

Its the MBT LAW weapon.


The guidance system is essentially the same as for WW2 torpedoes - just made of modern components and not relying on electromechanical computers.
 

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Thanks Urwumpe, only one I could think of was the PIAT. That would be getting a bit old now...
 

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Thanks Urwumpe, only one I could think of was the PIAT. That would be getting a bit old now...

Indeed - those WW2 relicts weren't even used in training since the 1960s. The Carl Gustav (or 84) already has many aging problems - the launcher is still found in many NATO depots, but the ammo is too old to be fired.
 

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That is arguable... The UK is a NATO member, and if Putin takes the Ukraine, NATO will have to deal with the consequences in one way or another, sooner or later...

Exactly. Its a matter of perspective there, note that the only difference of Ukraine joining the NATO is the distance from NATO territory to Moscow, not the fact of a common border (See Kaliningrad there)

Of course I would be terribly upset, if I would be ruling in Moscow. Thats a checkmate.

At the same time, the other option of simply letting Russia have their way with Ukraine, would be more of a disaster for the EU, than for the NATO. Of course, its understandable to be partial there.
 

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lol Gandhi in Civilization "will make you peaceful" :ROFLMAO:

But I must say, I'm a bit worried...
 

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The big issue is that the US being in NATO and Eastern Europe being in NATO are both good ideas, but not simultaneously. Problem is, if either the US or Eastern Europe leaves NATO (or isn't admitted for Ukraine et al.), then Putin will take liberties with Eastern Europe. And if both remain in NATO, in particular with more Russian border states joining, then Putin will (or will claim to) feel threatened enough to start a war. The situation is on a knife edge, and I'm not sure western leadership is cluefull enough, or Putin trustworthy enough, for there to be a happy ending.
 
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