News COVID-19 pandemic

[Notebook]

Its a difficult decision, but I think they will have to do more to restrict peoples movement.
Friends living in and near London say many people are behaving as normal.

 

[Urwumpe]

Its a difficult decision, but I think they will have to do more to restrict peoples movement.
Friends living in and near London say many people are behaving as normal.

Next week will show it here. When VW closes the production and most employees stay at home. Then we will see how well the people behave.

 

[4throck]

Today's update here: 785 cases, 3 deaths, 89 in hospital, 20 serious.
The rest are non serious cases that are at home.
24 virus transmission chains active.

Let's hope it keeps like this, these numbers are still manageable.

 

[gattispilot]

Here in Texas. Several cities have closed bars, gyms, theaters, seat in restaurants.
I was off for spring break and a now another week off. Staying safe. But using it for the better in working on Orbiter add-ons

 

[marooder86]

Its a difficult decision, but I think they will have to do more to restrict peoples movement.
Friends living in and near London say many people are behaving as normal.

Personally I think is a bit too late for movement restrictions but at least it's something. I live in London and been traveling on trains and tube and not longer then 2 days ago I haven't noticed that much decrease in numbers of commuters so the virus has probably already nicely spread across the city. I've just come back from shopping and in the area where i live there is plenty of people and cars on the streets. The only thing that significantly changed is the lack of products on shelves in shops. It's like socialism back again. Lots of buyers and nothing to buy .

 

[APDAF]

Lockdowns only work for about two weeks until people start to go out anyway, people get bored/stircrazy. It if they are hungry and the shops are empty that's prime ground for riots to start.

 

[Notebook]

The Bank of England has cut interest rates again in an emergency move as it tries to support the UK economy in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.
It is the second cut in interest rates in just over a week, bringing them down to 0.1% from 0.25%.
Interest rates are now at their lowest level in history.
The Bank said it would also increase its holdings of UK government bonds.

...

 

[Urwumpe]

10 confirmed infected patients in Wolfsburg now, but no critical condition among them yet. 10 out of about 120000, which means we are still below German average.

 

[jedidia]

I think they use drones to patrol in Italy (?). In China they use cell phone location and apps to control. This is 2020, no need for man.

Drones are good at patroling, but they suck at enforcing...

 

[Sunhillow]

Lockdowns only work for about two weeks until people start to go out anyway, people get bored/stircrazy. It if they are hungry and the shops are empty that's prime ground for riots to start.

You talk of riots very often IMHO. Where do you live?
Keep calm, stay at home, don't buy more than you can eat/consume - that would be reasonable now.

I know of no single virus that has ever been killed by riots

 

[Fabri91]

Drones are good at patroling, but they suck at enforcing...

Pfft:

 

[4throck]

Bidet sales going up on the USA:
https://www.businessinsider.com/cor...-toilet-paper-shortages-brondell-tushy-2020-3

Perhaps I've always used it wrong, but you still use mostly toilet paper for cleanup.
You can use the bidet for a final wash, but you start with paper.

And it's also very useful to wash your feet, for example.

 

[dbeachy1]

Some encouraging info here about a possible treatment / cure:

Old malaria drug hydroxychloroquine may help cure coronavirus: study

A drug developed over half a century ago to treat malaria is showing signs that it may also help cure COVID-19 — especially when combined with an antibiotic, a promising new study reveals.

Hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil — and also used to treat arthritis and other ailments — was determined to be effective in killing the deadly bug in laboratory experiments, Forbes reported, citing findings published March 9 in the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal.

...

The researchers found that 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the virus by the third day — and by day six, that figure was up to 70 percent.

Of the 20 test patients, six who were treated with both Plaquenil and the antibiotic azithromycin showed impressive results — with five testing negative at day three. All six of them tested negative at day six.

“Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin,” the study concluded.

 

[jedidia]

I guess it's too early to ask how high the chances of re-infection are of a patient that has been treated this way.

 

[Linguofreak]

I guess it's too early to ask how high the chances of re-infection are of a patient that has been treated this way.

If you can get 5/6 cleaned up in 3 days and 6/6 in 6 days, you can probably greatly reduce the number of patients that need prolonged ventilator support, even if you get a large number of reinfections. Of course, you do want to minimize reinfections to prevent a resistant strain developing, but if it can be nipped in the bud in 3 days, then for any given patient, multiple infections might well be less harmful with the treatment than one infection without.

If this bears out, I figure that very strict quarantine measures will still be necessary early on, but it will be possible to relax them earlier than without the treatment.

 

[Buck Rogers]

Old malaria drug hydroxychloroquine may help cure coronavirus: study

Apparently this is often accompanied by serious side effects!

I've been trying to get hold of the original documentation, this is the closest I've got so far:

22 Studien mit Daten zum Human-Coronavirus (HCoV) 229E, zu SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV und tierpathogenen Viren wie Transmissible Gastroenteritis Virus (TGEV), Maus-Hepatitis-Virus (MHV) und Kaninchen-Coronavirus wurden ausgewählt. Die humanpathogenen Viruspartikel waren auf Metall-, Kunststoff- und Glasoberflächen bei Raumtemperatur für 2 Stunden bis 9 Tage nachweisbar, eine Luftfeuchtigkeit von ≥ 50 % war mit längeren Persistenzen assoziiert als bei 30 %. Höhere Temperaturen (30–40° C) verkürzten die Persistenz bei MERS-CoV, TGEV und MHV. Bei niedrigeren Temperaturen (4° C) blieben TGEV und MHV dagegen für ≥ 28 Tage infektiös.

Wirksame Desinfektionsmittel für alle untersuchten Coronaviren waren hochprozentiger Ethylalkohol (62–71 %), 0,5 % Wasserstoffperoxid und 0,1 % Natriumhypochlorit. In 1 Minute reduzierten sie die Zahl infektiöser Viruspartikel um 4 Logstufen in Suspensionen und um 2–4 Logstufen auf kontaminierten Oberflächen. Andere biozide Substanzen wie 0,05–0,2 % Benzalkoniumchlorid oder 0,02 % Chlorhexidin waren weniger effektiv. Die Ergebnisse seien auf SARS-CoV-2 übertragbar, so die Autoren.

Source: https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/212851/Oberflaechendesinfektion-in-medizinischen-Einrichtungen-Einige-Desinfektionsmittel-sind-innerhalb-von-Minuten-viruzid-fuer-Coronaviren
So most importantly anything you buy, wash down before putting it in the fridge!

Something that occured to me but not yet peer tested:

paper-suggests-certain-blood-types-might-be-slightly-more-susceptible-to-covid-19

Source: https://www.sciencealert.com/paper-suggests-certain-blood-types-might-be-slightly-more-susceptible-to-covid-19

Most current and concise figures on the Corona Virus I've seen so far:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

5322 new cases and 427 new deaths in Italy. Italy's death toll surpasses China's, becoming the country with the highest number of coronavirus deaths in the world

 

[Sbb1413]

Re: Epidemic of coronavirus

The above graph shows how coronavirus on 2020 affect more people than the influenze on 2018-19. However, the epidemic of coronavirus is "nowhere near as widespread as previous epidemics such as swine flu or the Spanish flu":

Source: Forbes and Snopes.com

Interesting fact

Although the flu of 1918 is called "Spanish flu", it is not originated on Spain.

Thanks to Paul Shillito for comparing coronavirus with the Spanish flu.

 

[Urwumpe]

In Germany, many idiots are still using the highest known excess-mortality figure of 25000 for Influenza to claim that COVID-19 is harmless compared to Influenza. Without even realizing, what this number actually means.

Excess mortality is simply: n people die on the average each year without influenza. Maximally every death past n can be attributed to influenza.

That kind of statistic upper limit explains, why there can be a number like 25000 for a 85 million people country. But at the same time, this excess mortality can be zero in seasons like 2008/2009, when the laboratories have confirmed 258 deaths due to influenza.

Excess mortality was already pure alarmism to make people take their flu shots in the past, when it was introduced. Now it is killing people by being a mathematical lie, that is calling in its debt to the truth.

 

[Ripley]

Drones are good at patroling, but they suck at enforcing...

Yes, drones maybe suck. What about REAL choppers??

 

[Linguofreak]

Apparently this is often accompanied by serious side effects!

The Wikipedia article on the stuff describes it as fairly safe. The readily horrible side effect is retinal damage, but that's associated with taking it for periods exceeding 5 years, or for cumulative doses on the order of a kilogram.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine