But who ever does, I think ultimately space exploration is really a short term agenda due to the lack of money to be made.
Are you NUTZZzzzz :lol:I do like the Mars cofee mug, it is about £13.93, $20.
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Profits aren't everything that can motivate a human. Remember though, that everything costs money in this world and TANSTAAFL.
I disagree there - it is a short term agenda due to bad planning. If you look how much money goes around the world, a Mars mission is easily possible.
The key question is: How do you make enough of this money flow towards Mars, invest into Mars, even if profits might not come back in decades. And this only makes sense if you reduce the risk of the investment. Either by financial tricks and backups. Or by reducing technological risk.
Thus, you can't go straight to Mars. You need to do steps that are risky enough to have profits (if there are no risks, there are no profits in proper capitalism. If you have profits without risk, be scared, not happy) in sight, but never too risky. For example propellant depots in increasingly challenging orbits. Or automatic greenhouses for space. Or microgravity surgery. There are many fields, that are not yet Mars - but all have risks that need to be won.
Without short term interest in making money, nobody will bother with orbital flight missions.
History has shown that, we can't use the Earth to compare those types of endeavors.
Huh?Just to show you how long-term investments can be without being extremely profitable: Germany successfully sells 30 year bonds with 1% interest rate. And many do. Its the safest way to park your money.
Huh?
That's 34% growth over 30 years.
Given the average inflation rate of 2% that was over the last 30 years, you would end up with about 71% of your money by the end.
Is that a type of scam, or am i missing something?
I read an interesting article at the Mises Institute.
https://mises.org/blog/what-mises-would-say-about-austrias-new-70-year-bond
Yes, Earth bound meaning business occurs here, so no living on the Moon or Mars. Only some kind of real need for those locations could somehow make it a worthwhile risk.
Yeah, obviously. That is what I had meant on the previous page.
Sure, all good and well.
But its very unlikely a society will workout on Mars or the Moon like it does here. It would be centuries from now.
1300 men in 1493 how many in 1500?
How many men on the Santa Maria died on the way there.
I really do accept that heading off to "Eric-land" was a big a deal than as heading to Mars is now but no way will we accept the same levels of losses.
I still think the space subject just can't be compared to here. Unless that Mask guy can do something, may be it may change my mind. But I think as I do put it on here nearly a year ago, just one mission to somewhere is the economics there is.:uhh: