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[Notebook]

My confessional to a Jaguar XF forum I frequent...

About two weeks ago, I was coming back from London to Northumberland. Halfway up the M1, got some fuel, black-hose, black handle, check its diesel. Very slow at filling, so slow I thought
the station pump was running low. Put £20 in and decided to fill again at the next station, very slow fill again, but didn't twig(or want to), definitely diesel went in. Drove about 120 miles home, no probs.

Next morning drove to local filling station to top up, engine a bit rough, rev counter moving around about a needles width, never seen that before, went away in cruise-control. Filed up, very slow again.
Took a lot of cranking to start, never done that before, getting worried now. Went to local supermarket, wouldn't start after that, just endless cranking. Got the AA.

This is their report

" How we assisted

LOW FUEL PRESSURE PRIMED FUEL FILTER AND VEHICLE STARTED VEHICLE IS HUNTING FOR FUEL ADVISED IMMEDIATE GARAGE ATTENTION MEMBER REFUSED FOLOW TO GARAGE

Patrol found the following fault code/s:System : Engine control - 5TL / Diesel CR/EDC SID 20x Status 0087 - Fuel pressure system / system pressure. Error Message : Lower signal amplitude too low. Fault pending.


Diagnostic testing may be limited in a breakdown type situation: Please ensure symptoms/suggested faults are confirmed by repairer before any suggested work is started."

Its on the drive now. It will start and run, but rough, and has a smell of paraffin from the exhaust I've never noticed before.
Clincher is the miss-fuel device was triggered, and had to get the device off the battery and reset it.

In court I would be convicted on the evidence, and I have to assume I did put that £20 of petrol in, not diesel.

What to do next? Tell Stratstone everything, and wait for the bill? Keep quiet and see if it goes away?

All help appreciated.

N.

 

[Abdullah]

Actually the procedure is pretty simple now. Unzip it and run. Download the DX client and run even faster.

So, where do we get the Orbiter 2014 zip file?
I hope you didn't miss the four numbers.

 

[Fabri91]

It's now called Orbiter 2016 and you'll find threads for the release candidate(s).

 

[Urwumpe]

My confessional to a Jaguar XF forum I frequent...

Well, the only good news is, you diluted it with more Diesel, so the damage isn't fatal. But the bad news are, you are driving a modern turbodiesel car and not a two-stroke tractor. Sadly it sounds like you would need a few full charges to your tank to get a useful cetane number again.

Your engine will now suffer from a bad case of this:

http://www.turbodieselregister.com/mixing_gasoline_and_diesel.htm

So, filters and injectors will in the worst case be written off unless you really get it into the workshop ASAP. Cleaning the mud from your propellant lines will be necessary to prevent further damage and will also be expensive.

 

[Notebook]

Agree with all that. Some irony that my first trade after leaving school was as a ....car mechanic!
Long time ago, but I did do an apprenticeship till I discovered electronics and got transistorized. Bit safer, and usually cleaner.

Not a good time to happen, but all self inflicted.

N.

 

[Fabri91]

It happens to the best of us!

The problem is that Diesel engines aren't really the indestructible and simple workhorses they were, but very complicated and sensitive engines, alas.

 

[Urwumpe]

Agree with all that. Some irony that my first trade after leaving school was as a ....car mechanic!
Long time ago, but I did do an apprenticeship till I discovered electronics and got transistorized. Bit safer, and usually cleaner.

Not a good time to happen, but all self inflicted.

N.

Well, still better than driving with nearly 50 km/h over a high curb, because you had milliseconds to decide if you use the left low curbs or the right low curbs, and selected the high curb in the middle as compromise. :facepalm:

Afterwards I had to collect the scattered pieces of my right front fender and solve a large puzzle at home. Interestingly, the shock absorbers survived it.

 

[Notebook]

Well that's a split-second decision, and you did your best. God knows what I was thinking at the time, and in slo-mo.

Anyway, someone always makes a profit...
http://forecourtassistnortheast.co.uk/?gclid=CI3p18yQtM4CFQcq0wodnD4DcQ

N.

 

[mojoey]

Somewhere a Volkswagen specialist mechanic just giggled about the thought of another easy job. (Yes I know it's a Jag, shh)

 

[Notebook]

Good luck to them, its a useful service. Just never thought I'd be thinking about using it!

N.

 

[Urwumpe]

Anyway, someone always makes a profit...
http://forecourtassistnortheast.co.uk/?gclid=CI3p18yQtM4CFQcq0wodnD4DcQ

There is a demand, so there is a service. You will never know when somebody will invent "beer as a service".

 

[Notebook]

I thought they already had! that reminds me, serious Stella depletion scenario...

N.

 

[Koloss]

If you can see it, look at arte.tv now, they are streaming Blind Guardian live from Wacken today. :thumbup:

16.20 Uhr - Entombed A.D.

17.25 Uhr - Axel Rudi Pell

18.30 Uhr - Eluveitie

19.45 Uhr - Saxon (Replay)

21.00 Uhr - Tarja

22.30 Uhr - Blind Guardian

0.15 Uhr - Ministry

1.45 Uhr - Testament

(I sadly can't... I have to fetch my new toy for the holidays)

Hey, Blind Guardian! They used to rehearse in the bunker I rehearse today Nice guys.

 

[Thunder Chicken]

It drove about 120 miles after the "event" then the probs started, rough running, then wouldn't start. Breakdown mob got it home. Have to decide on Monday what to do with it.
N.

Gasoline is lighter than diesel so what is left in the tank is probably mostly gasoline. Get some gas containers and siphon all the fuel out of the tank, refill the tank with diesel fuel to dilute the remaining gasoline, and crank it until it runs.

---------- Post added at 11:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:00 AM ----------

EDIT: You may need to crank a lot to get all of the gas out of the lines, so you may want to have a friend with another car and jumper cables just in case your battery dies.

 

[Fabri91]

Then again, I should probably shut up about Diesel engines being finicky when our gasoline-powered 1.0 turbo is at the mechanic with what appears to be a blown head gasket. Right after the warranty expires and before the mechanic closes up shop for summer holidays. Sigh.

From what research I did it seems not to be a widespread issue, but a fat lot of good it does us.

 

[Urwumpe]

Then again, I should probably shut up about Diesel engines being finicky when our gasoline-powered 1.0 turbo is at the mechanic with what appears to be a blown head gasket. Right after the warranty expires and before the mechanic closes up shop for summer holidays. Sigh.

From what research I did it seems not to be a widespread issue, but a fat lot of good it does us.

My care is due for a routine check in two days, Sunday it has to do 745 km, I hope all is really as fine as I believe.

 

[Fabri91]

Well, in doubt before any long trip, and in general periodically if possible, check the car's fluid levels. I have the suspicion that we might have been able to catch the coolant leak early.

 

[Urwumpe]

Well, in doubt before any long trip, and in general periodically if possible, check the car's fluid levels. I have the suspicion that we might have been able to catch the coolant leak early.

I wouldn't be too sure there. I checked one of my old cars only a few days earlier and had no issues, suddenly I was out of coolant on the way to work. After work, I tried to refill the coolant with distilled water, but when I opened the tank, there was just a loud hissing sound and the water was back.

Gasket was blown, and exhaust gases displaced the coolant in the tank. A miracle that no coolant line was ruptured by the overpressure.

On the previous car, I had a sudden loss of coolant (LOC) when the coolant pump failed without warning. Instead of attending a ESA workshop, I drove it to the mechanic in the afternoon.

EDIT: Well, I'll get oil exchanged anyway then, so the level should be correct. Luckily I have no automatic transmission...

 

[MaverickSawyer]

That would have been quite a feat, with the diesel nozzle being larger and not fitting in the tank opening.

... That's a thing?

 

[Urwumpe]

Today is the 10th anniversary of the first release of Dwarf Fortress! Apparently it was time for us to get a taste of what we've been dishing out, as we've been showered with crayon drawings through the mail. Thanks to everybody that has played the game, enjoyed the stories and supported Bay 12 through the years. On to the next decade!

Happy Birthday Dwarf Fortress!